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Title: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: degsey66 on July 26, 2017, 02:36:40 PM
Word from Marca is that NUFC have agreed in principle to sign him from Borussia Dortmund on a season long loan.   Not sure how true,  nor do I know owt about him apart from apparently he's a midfielder.  Thoughts? 
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: john88 on July 26, 2017, 03:18:11 PM
lee ryder posting about it too. loan or a permanent deal. never seen him, but if dortmund thought he had talent, he must have qualities. much more like a benitez signing this one, apparently a centre midfielder, who can play defence, also very good passer.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: john88 on July 26, 2017, 04:34:44 PM
Spotted in Newcastle, looks like this is going ahead.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: IPG on July 26, 2017, 05:00:19 PM
Benitez wanted him according to reports, so will be happy to have him. We really do need some more creativity from midfield, as right now Shelvey is the only real creative player, hopefully this guy could provide some but have no idea what he has to offer as don't think I have ever seen him play.

Lets face it getting anyone in at the moment that Benitez wants is a move in the right direction but I think we really need a few proven quality players in if we are not going to be facing a struggle this season.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: degsey66 on July 26, 2017, 05:29:43 PM
Having medical
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: bobjoob on July 26, 2017, 05:48:52 PM
idk can never get excited for a loan move
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: marki on July 26, 2017, 05:51:16 PM
could be a good player for us from what ive seen although still young,has a good pass and nice skills..if rafa can bring him on we could have a gem.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: marki on July 26, 2017, 05:52:01 PM
only a loan move? ive read he signed permanent
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: bobjoob on July 26, 2017, 05:54:27 PM
quick browse on sky thats what i seen, it does say with opt to buy tho. not got a clue who he is to be honest
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: ohsholaameobi on July 26, 2017, 06:00:08 PM
Dortmund fans seem to think it's a loan w/ option. He didn't really have a shot in their midfield with Weigl, Sahin, Dahoud, Kagawa, Guerreiro, Castro and Rode all ahead of him.

Comes highly rated as a pivot midfielder, doesn't look owa strong but looks good on the ball.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: Poz on July 26, 2017, 06:11:35 PM
Fuking kids man - waiting for a PROPER signing who is proven at the highest of levels.

WTF is wrong with us???????????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: john88 on July 26, 2017, 06:17:20 PM
Think this is a great signing, albeit a loan. If he is successful, we have the option to make it permanent. Desperate for some creativity & someone who can pass & bring technical skills to the side. You can't moan with this acquisition.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: marki on July 26, 2017, 06:17:41 PM
Fuking kids man - waiting for a PROPER signing who is proven at the highest of levels.

WTF is wrong with us???????????????????????????????????????
Fuking kids man - waiting for a PROPER signing who is proven at the highest of levels.

WTF is wrong with us???????????????????????????????????????
   We are like a rabbit caught in the headlights..afraid to make a move
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: marki on July 26, 2017, 06:21:05 PM
Think this is a great signing, albeit a loan. If he is successful, we have the option to make it permanent. Desperate for some creativity & someone who can pass & bring technical skills to the side. You can't moan with this acquisition.
This is a good signing but unless we spend some real money on  real strength these young lads are in for a hard time
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: Newcastle Serbia on July 26, 2017, 07:32:37 PM
Apparently he's arrived already.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFq5j6KXYAIoE0-.jpg)
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: R S on July 26, 2017, 07:43:37 PM
Buy 'em young and sell 'em on for profit. Reminds me of something this......
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: AceLV74EVA on July 26, 2017, 09:34:59 PM
Happy with this one, big lad, decent in the air and good on the ball. Still think we need a destroyer as well but happy enough with this one on loan to buy
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: ToonArmyFan on July 26, 2017, 10:10:03 PM
"Who the f**k$ that guy" haha
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: DontSellCabaye on July 27, 2017, 11:35:38 AM
Really excited by this signing. Think we're okay in centre midfield now, some would argue we need another but I think Hayden is the defensive midfielder we will look to, and with Merino coming in it takes a bit of pressure of both him and Shelvey. Diame capable back up, not a starter though.

Merino looks pure class in the highlights I've seen, could be just what we need.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: Toon1 on July 27, 2017, 12:00:29 PM
Does this push us more into a 433 with him shelvey & Hayden in midfield - Murphy & Ritchie either side of Gayle

Personally think shelvey can't be trusted in a 2 man midfield in this league as he doesn't have the concentration and aptitude to do it
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: john88 on July 27, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
i'd go

------------------------GAYLE--------------------------
---AARONS----------------------------------MURPHY---
----------------------------------------------------------
------MERINO--------SHELVEY-----HAYDEN------------
----------------------------------------------------------
-MANQUILLO---CLARK-------LEJEUNE-------YEDLIN-
----------------------------------------------------------
------------------------DARLOW-------------------------

Subs - Elliott/Dummett/Lascelles/Mbemba/Diame/Ritchie/De Jong/Perez/De Jong/Mitrovic

Squad is coming together, obviously needs two more at the very least. Ritchie coming off surgery, probably means he's behind on fitness, so Murphy could get the nod on the right. Certainly looks a young, pacey side, with shelvey & merino bringing their technical skills to the table. Can see Manquillo starting a LB (if no other LB is signed), might strike up a partnership with Merino on that side.

Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: DontSellCabaye on July 27, 2017, 02:38:11 PM
i'd go

------------------------GAYLE--------------------------
---AARONS----------------------------------MURPHY---
----------------------------------------------------------
------MERINO--------SHELVEY-----HAYDEN------------
----------------------------------------------------------
-MANQUILLO---CLARK-------LEJEUNE-------YEDLIN-
----------------------------------------------------------
------------------------DARLOW-------------------------

Subs - Elliott/Dummett/Lascelles/Mbemba/Diame/Ritchie/De Jong/Perez/De Jong/Mitrovic

Squad is coming together, obviously needs two more at the very least. Ritchie coming off surgery, probably means he's behind on fitness, so Murphy could get the nod on the right. Certainly looks a young, pacey side, with shelvey & merino bringing their technical skills to the table. Can see Manquillo starting a LB (if no other LB is signed), might strike up a partnership with Merino on that side.



Like that team. Although I would start with Dummett over Manquillo (much better defensively), and Ritchie over Aarons or Murphy giving the side more options and being able to utilise the pace of Atsu and/or Murphy/Aarons off the bench. Really think our side is starting to come together, there's good depth in some of the key areas.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on July 27, 2017, 03:38:57 PM
Aarons over Ritchie?!? What have you been drinking?

I'm not impressed by this signing...too many signings from abroad have been made where the player isn't a star fixture in their previous team...Haidara, Anita, Saivet... They may be playing a lot of games in those divisions but still be too slight build wise for the premier league...Perez, Gouffran, Xisco. This guy has both inadequacies...

I'm willing to give him a chance but he seems a little like a straw clutch of a signing.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: john88 on July 27, 2017, 04:15:09 PM
Obviously Ritchie is first choice, but for spurs, he might be short of fitness coming off that recent surgery. Great to have options though in that final third though.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: Poz on July 27, 2017, 05:36:00 PM
Still waiting for the biggies to arrive - striker left back and top midfielder still required in my opinion
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: DontSellCabaye on July 27, 2017, 05:54:10 PM
Still waiting for the biggies to arrive - striker left back and top midfielder still required in my opinion

'The biggies' won't be arriving. Rafa is building a squad which he believes can give him the options and quality required to compete in the PL. 'The biggies' arrived 2 years ago in Wijnaldum, Thauvin, Mitrovic etc. and were woefully mismanaged and ended up getting relegated. Signing big players guarantees nothing, I'll choose to trust Rafa's judgement of any player we bring in, regardless of stature.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: IPG on July 27, 2017, 06:45:46 PM
Aarons over Ritchie?!? What have you been drinking?

I'm not impressed by this signing...too many signings from abroad have been made where the player isn't a star fixture in their previous team...Haidara, Anita, Saivet... They may be playing a lot of games in those divisions but still be too slight build wise for the premier league...Perez, Gouffran, Xisco. This guy has both inadequacies...

I'm willing to give him a chance but he seems a little like a straw clutch of a signing.

Merino is a 6 foot 2 and is not "slight".  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: max on July 27, 2017, 06:56:54 PM
We do need a couple of "biggies". It's not wijnaldum's fault that Mike Ashley decided to back Steve Mcclaren to the tune of 80m. No other manager at nufc has had that sort of money to spend.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: Toon1 on July 27, 2017, 07:21:53 PM
'The biggies' won't be arriving. Rafa is building a squad which he believes can give him the options and quality required to compete in the PL. 'The biggies' arrived 2 years ago in Wijnaldum, Thauvin, Mitrovic etc. and were woefully mismanaged and ended up getting relegated. Signing big players guarantees nothing, I'll choose to trust Rafa's judgement of any player we bring in, regardless of stature.

For once we did right thing spending big before the massive increase in fees kicked in unfortunately we gave them players to f***ing tufty
Title: Re: Mikel Merino...?
Post by: little toon town on July 28, 2017, 12:52:43 PM
Signed, happy with this deal, looks a real talent is only 21, loan with view for a permanant deal next summer, obviously freeing funds up for this year :thumbs:
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: Poz on July 28, 2017, 02:30:12 PM
Signed, happy with this deal, looks a real talent is only 21, loan with view for a permanant deal next summer, obviously freeing funds up for this year :thumbs:

Nee funds left according to Lee Ryder :(
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on July 28, 2017, 04:35:11 PM
Nee funds left according to Lee Ryder :(

It doesn't surprise me. They haven't really generated any money this window, the previous big sales were based on staged payments (Sissoko, Wijnaldum, Townsend and Thauvin) so the money spent so far is probably covering about half the money taken in for these transfers.

I imagine this explains the ?16m or whatever it was demand from Lyon for Mitrovic. They'll never pay that, I reckon... they're just not PSG.

If the team managed to offload De Jong, Riviere, Mbemba, Hanley, Krul, Lazaar, Mitrovic, Colback, Saivet and Gamez, at best they'd be looking at a sum of ?20-?25m for the lot...that won't be enough for a decent striker and / or No.10 in this market.

anyone need a team for League 1? Only costs about ?300k a week in wages...
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: john88 on August 01, 2017, 08:36:27 AM
Details : Newcastle paying ?2.7million to the Bundesliga side for Merino, a season-long loan with a permanent fee of a further ?6.5million teed up to complete the deal. Good business in all honesty.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: peachy on August 01, 2017, 09:43:07 AM
Details : Newcastle paying ?2.7million to the Bundesliga side for Merino, a season-long loan with a permanent fee of a further ?6.5million teed up to complete the deal. Good business in all honesty.

The permanent deal based on him playing 20 games, so he will be starting ahead of Hayden who is more the one for the future.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on August 04, 2017, 10:52:41 AM
The permanent deal based on him playing 20 games, so he will be starting ahead of Hayden who is more the one for the future.

Thus near identical to the Atsu deal...I wonder if that's 20 apps or 20 starts...I still think Hayden will be first choice though.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: peachy on August 04, 2017, 06:18:44 PM
I thought the Atsu deal was just 'cough up ?6.2m no later than a week after the season ends and he's yours'  :thumbs:

Merino has to be first choice, he's played for Dortmund., Haydens not very good yet and is one for the future.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on August 05, 2017, 09:21:26 AM
I thought the Atsu deal was just 'cough up ?6.2m no later than a week after the season ends and he's yours'  :thumbs:

Merino has to be first choice, he's played for Dortmund., Haydens not very good yet and is one for the future.

*started 2 games in a whole season for Dortmund, and has never played in English football before where the pace of the game could get away from him ala Anita
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: peachy on August 05, 2017, 05:35:52 PM
*started 2 games in a whole season for Dortmund, and has never played in English football before where the pace of the game could get away from him ala Anita

Trust me it wont, The majority of games last season hayden failed to really get hold of things in midfield and will struggle in the prem, he's one for the future, merino's the man and only one way to get him accustomed to english football quickly is to throw him straight in amongst it.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: max on August 06, 2017, 02:54:59 AM
Hayden can play at right back with Manquillo until Yedlin returns
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on August 06, 2017, 01:28:41 PM
Trust me it wont, The majority of games last season hayden failed to really get hold of things in midfield and will struggle in the prem, he's one for the future, merino's the man and only one way to get him accustomed to english football quickly is to throw him straight in amongst it.

You could be correct but Rafa won't do this. Very few Premier League managers would.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: Skoshi on August 26, 2017, 07:22:35 PM
Thought the lad was quality today,here is hoping he can keep it up...
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: Toon1 on September 02, 2017, 02:01:32 PM
Scored first & assist for second 👍🏻

Quality goal he scored

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q46ssOTuM1s
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: DontSellCabaye on September 02, 2017, 02:38:17 PM
Scored first & assist for second 👍🏻

Quality goal he scored

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q46ssOTuM1s

Brilliant
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: danny on September 02, 2017, 04:07:50 PM
This boy looks like the real deal... a tad raw but
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on September 02, 2017, 04:37:53 PM
Hopefully he can do the same against the Stokes, West Broms and Southamptons. That would put NUFC into a safe position.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: peachy on September 09, 2017, 03:42:10 AM
Nice piece in the independent about Merino "It was the next day after I signed for Newcastle and I was with my mum walking near the river and a lot of people, were shaking my hand and going, "All the best mate," and "Have a good season," he recalls. "I looked at my mum and I was like "Woah! I've only just joined and they know me! In Dortmund even on the last day they didn't know!"

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle-united-mikel-merino-interview-fans-rafael-benitez-borussia-dortmund-a7937316.html
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: danny on September 10, 2017, 06:20:48 PM
Looks like the real deal to me, hope we sign him
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: ToonArmyFan on September 10, 2017, 06:57:09 PM
Think he has a 9 million buy out in the loan contract if he plays a certain amount of games
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: peachy on September 11, 2017, 09:33:24 AM
Looking like a bargain for ?9m, really hit the ground running and I knew Dortmund must have seen something special in this lad to sign him up for five years, theres no disgrace in being shipped out on loan the following season as they have an embarrassment of riches, some thought he would struggle with the pace of the prem, but as my old dad said there's no substitute for skill son,.aye.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: johndavey11 on September 11, 2017, 04:31:15 PM
just sign the boy now ffs..we all know what will really happen, we will have him for 1 season then as usual will lose out as we wont pay what is being asked.the lad really looks quality.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: IPG on September 11, 2017, 11:08:13 PM
Will definitely be signing him on a permanent basis bar disaster (permanent transfer apparently to be triggered by him making a certain number of appearances). At around ?9m will be an absolute steal in the current market  :thumbs:

Loved the Independent article  :D - seems really happy to be appreciated plus you got to like a player who listens to his Mum  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on September 12, 2017, 05:25:54 PM
I think he's really been a good find - strong in the middle of the park and not afraid of putting some balls around. I hope he works on dead ball delivery - he could be a good replacement for an unreliable Shelvey.

Wasn't pleased with his dive against Swansea though.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: TK on September 12, 2017, 05:37:12 PM
Will definitely be signing him on a permanent basis bar disaster (permanent transfer apparently to be triggered by him making a certain number of appearances). At around ?9m will be an absolute steal in the current market  :thumbs:


9m is an absolute steal indeed... in the current market he could go for 25-30 and still seem like reasonable value IMHO.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: john88 on September 12, 2017, 07:47:18 PM
problem is, we keep banging on about him, the media start to take interest, he keeps performing to a high level, and then the big clubs start talking to the agent, and it ends in tears. by his 20th performances, playing at this level, his agent would of fielded numerous calls and merino will have offers to play elsewhere. the most important man in the whole discussion is probably benitez and persuading him to stay long term. the contract is just a bit of paper, no real guarantee of anything.

i'll be amazed if we snap him up for ?9m or whatever the contract stipulates. he's worth ?20m + in the current market really (spanish u-21 too), so if dortmund dont want him, they will probably be touting him around for double the fee we could get for him.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: TK on September 12, 2017, 11:48:05 PM
Depends what the agreement is in writing...

If it says that if he makes a certain number of appearances then we must pay them the 9m and they must sell him to us then there might not be much they can do to tout him elsewhere... unless he's aware of other interest and turns us down, I can't see that happening - and even if he's aware of other interest, he seems to have his head screwed on and might see a couple of years here under Benitez as an excellent place to continue improving before making a big move when he'd be guaranteed first-team football at bigger teams (which just yet he might not?)
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: DontSellCabaye on September 13, 2017, 12:21:58 AM
problem is, we keep banging on about him, the media start to take interest, he keeps performing to a high level, and then the big clubs start talking to the agent, and it ends in tears. by his 20th performances, playing at this level, his agent would of fielded numerous calls and merino will have offers to play elsewhere. the most important man in the whole discussion is probably benitez and persuading him to stay long term. the contract is just a bit of paper, no real guarantee of anything.

i'll be amazed if we snap him up for ?9m or whatever the contract stipulates. he's worth ?20m + in the current market really (spanish u-21 too), so if dortmund dont want him, they will probably be touting him around for double the fee we could get for him.

I read we have an obligation to buy for ?6.5m with a ?2.7m upfront payment for the loan itself. Once 20 games are played, he's ours - not sure how much Dortmund or any other club for that matter can do about that now that it's agreed.
Title: Re: Mikel Merino. Signed
Post by: New Durham Mags on September 13, 2017, 08:03:06 AM
To Me its very similar to the Thaivan situation when he left on loan, he ripped up the French league and probably added an extra 50% onto his value but we had to sell him for the price we agreed prior to his loan.

I just hope he agrees personal terms and FMA and his crew don't insult him with a low as F#ck wage offer that he turns down.

well done to who ever scouted this kid cos he looks like he can only get better and hes already better than what we used too  :roll: