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Title: FMA interview
Post by: New Durham Mags on August 11, 2017, 04:49:29 PM
Hi all im a new member so be gentle  :!
but I have been lurking on here for a good year now :wtf:

just wondering what's everyone's thoughts on the interview ??

im pretty sure big Mike has a few mill lying around to put in to help us out till the TV money starts to filter through !!

Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: dublingeordie on August 11, 2017, 05:14:04 PM


Nothing new from that clown, mentioning that Charnley answers to Rafa seems like a ploy to lay the blame for a lack of quality signings on Benitez. Hope people don't fall for it.

The 200 million thing is already being lapped up by the usuals in the media (merson etc.) as us being delusional. When nobody including Rafa is asking for anything close to it.

God I can't wait for the day we see the back of him.
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Toon1 on August 11, 2017, 05:47:59 PM
Usual tripe! We are not asking to compete with Man City ffs
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: New Durham Mags on August 11, 2017, 06:02:09 PM
Someone correct me if im wrong but im trying to get my head around how much money he has !!

1 thousand million = 1 billion AND Mike is worth 3 billion (give or take) so that's 3 thousand million hes worth ?

so a question is if you were worth 3 thousand pound and Nufc asked for 50 quid would you give it to them ??

Cos if my Maths are correct that's the same as him giving us 50 mill right ???
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: R S on August 11, 2017, 06:08:34 PM
Can't see why he bothers to keep us. No ambition, no ultimate goal. It's Groundhog Day every season. At least the paying public know what to expect. Great fans, great stadium, s*** football club.
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on August 11, 2017, 06:20:56 PM
Free advertising which he can obtain to his target demographic whilst running the club as a going concern (making no actual investment, running it as cheaply as possible).

I'd love to see how all the Chelsea or Manchester City fans would behave if their club was stripped of assets and run into the ground for the benefit of marketing rather than having wealthy owners spunking their stolen fortunes.
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: dublingeordie on August 11, 2017, 06:25:04 PM
Being worth 3 billion and having 3 billion to spend are entirely different things, (not defending him here btw) He recently bought shares in GAME if I remember rightly, so he's hardly strapped for cash.

Its been obvious that his intention since being in charge has been to make the club entirely self-sustainable i.e only spend a % of what we earn through TV, player sales, tickets etc. Hence the recruitment policy of buying young and cheap and selling on for a higher price. The issue with that is the appointments in management, recruitment and at board level have been so poor that the playing squad and academy has been so crap that we've been relegated twice and the squad has needed an overhaul for quite some time.

The introduction of the massive TV deals and FFP has meant that his strategy of not investing any of his own cash seems normal in the context of the footballing world, but the issue is that similarly sized clubs such as Spurs and Southampton posses better brains and talent when it comes to running a football club, for example we were still buying from Ligue 1 where we had success with Cabaye when our competitors moved onto new markets e.g Southampton getting Mane from Salzburg and Van Dijk from Celtic. Spurs and Everton also moved ahead of us since he got here as a result of the same thing.

This brought us relegation twice which in particular, the 2015/16 relegation meant that smaller clubs such as Palace, Swansea and Bournemouth have now moved ahead of us in terms of spending power. When you look at his time at NUFC it boggles the mind how someone this negligent ever became a Billionaire.
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: little toon town on August 11, 2017, 09:55:26 PM
Disagree with you all, I feel that this interview there was genuine emotion tbf, not a lot, but enough for him to realise that the club is struggling for funds for players.

"How much has Rafa benetiz got?" He got asked, and mid question he interrupted and said "Not enough". That to me signifies that if the club had got funds, Rafa would have them. We only got less than ?10m for winning the championship, where as Huddersfield got well over ?100m for winning the playoffs, so they can afford to spend like they have, similar to Brighton, as both them teams know that they would struggle hugely in the Prem with their sides.

Where as us, I think in Darlow/Elliot we have low half prem quality keepers, Mbemba was our best defender two seasons ago in the prem, Lascelles and Clark are in the same band as the keepers. Shelvey is well above anything and of last seasons bottom 5 have got. Ritchie rejected West Ham to sign for us after a brilliant debut season in the prem, Gayle has got 15 goals in 27 Prem Starts.

Not worried at all, we need 2/3 players thats it, and even if I trust Rafa, I think we have come back up with a miles better side to the one that went down :thumbs:
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Surreymag on August 12, 2017, 12:27:37 AM
Disagree with you all, I feel that this interview there was genuine emotion tbf, not a lot, but enough for him to realise that the club is struggling for funds for players.

"How much has Rafa benetiz got?" He got asked, and mid question he interrupted and said "Not enough". That to me signifies that if the club had got funds, Rafa would have them. We only got less than ?10m for winning the championship, where as Huddersfield got well over ?100m for winning the playoffs, so they can afford to spend like they have, similar to Brighton, as both them teams know that they would struggle hugely in the Prem with their sides.

Where as us, I think in Darlow/Elliot we have low half prem quality keepers, Mbemba was our best defender two seasons ago in the prem, Lascelles and Clark are in the same band as the keepers. Shelvey is well above anything and of last seasons bottom 5 have got. Ritchie rejected West Ham to sign for us after a brilliant debut season in the prem, Gayle has got 15 goals in 27 Prem Starts.

Not worried at all, we need 2/3 players thats it, and even if I trust Rafa, I think we have come back up with a miles better side to the one that went down :thumbs:
I totally agree think we will finish 11-15th not going to set the league on fire but that's probably as good as it gets in the current climate!
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: marki on August 12, 2017, 01:41:02 AM
bollocks
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Toon1 on August 12, 2017, 06:35:00 AM
Disagree with you all, I feel that this interview there was genuine emotion tbf, not a lot, but enough for him to realise that the club is struggling for funds for players.

"How much has Rafa benetiz got?" He got asked, and mid question he interrupted and said "Not enough". That to me signifies that if the club had got funds, Rafa would have them. We only got less than ?10m for winning the championship, where as Huddersfield got well over ?100m for winning the playoffs, so they can afford to spend like they have, similar to Brighton, as both them teams know that they would struggle hugely in the Prem with their sides.

Where as us, I think in Darlow/Elliot we have low half prem quality keepers, Mbemba was our best defender two seasons ago in the prem, Lascelles and Clark are in the same band as the keepers. Shelvey is well above anything and of last seasons bottom 5 have got. Ritchie rejected West Ham to sign for us after a brilliant debut season in the prem, Gayle has got 15 goals in 27 Prem Starts.

Not worried at all, we need 2/3 players thats it, and even if I trust Rafa, I think we have come back up with a miles better side to the one that went down :thumbs:

How do you work out we got 10m while Huddersfield got 100m  :wtf:

I can guarantee we got much higher revenue last year than they did & will do again this year (unless they finish much higher than us in table)
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Poz on August 12, 2017, 06:51:04 AM
Any decent interviewer would have ripped him apart with the true financial facts  :nonono:
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: peachy on August 12, 2017, 10:21:12 AM
Disagree with you all, I feel that this interview there was genuine emotion tbf, not a lot, but enough for him to realise that the club is struggling for funds for players.

"How much has Rafa benetiz got?" He got asked, and mid question he interrupted and said "Not enough". That to me signifies that if the club had got funds, Rafa would have them. We only got less than ?10m for winning the championship, where as Huddersfield got well over ?100m for winning the playoffs, so they can afford to spend like they have, similar to Brighton, as both them teams know that they would struggle hugely in the Prem with their sides.

Where as us, I think in Darlow/Elliot we have low half prem quality keepers, Mbemba was our best defender two seasons ago in the prem, Lascelles and Clark are in the same band as the keepers. Shelvey is well above anything and of last seasons bottom 5 have got. Ritchie rejected West Ham to sign for us after a brilliant debut season in the prem, Gayle has got 15 goals in 27 Prem Starts.

Not worried at all, we need 2/3 players thats it, and even if I trust Rafa, I think we have come back up with a miles better side to the one that went down :thumbs:

Think you're getting a bit confused there LTT, All the talk of that play off final being worth ?100m+ to the winner was basically meaning that they would recieve that at the end of this season which is the same as we will get.

Watching Ashley sitting there virtually pleading poverty just again shows what mugs he takes us all for, the fact that he honestly believes we are so thick to fall for that bullsh*t is such an insult to our intelligence and underlines the deep contempt he has had for the fans for the last ten years is still alive and kicking.  :mad:

I do know that clubs like us would get caught by ffp rules if we spent more than the club is earning... We do need to buy players but it's going to take time to stabilise and be able to attract half decent players, the name of a good manager just doesnt cut it anymore unfortunately and a lot of our fans need to realise that, however to not even be in a position to compete financially with the likes of Watford and Bournemouth is frightening, he's banging on about not having the money that Citeh are throwing around, we dont expect him to cough up that much, just enough to keep us up this season.
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Poz on August 12, 2017, 10:31:43 AM
Great timing too - it was a 'I'm not to blame for what might yet happen' plea.
24 hours before kick off - well done Mike for your timely boost  :wtf:
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: john88 on August 12, 2017, 10:58:42 AM
lol imagine believing you only receive ?10m for winning the league, but ?100m for winning the PO's. comical stuff
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: AceLV74EVA on August 12, 2017, 11:20:02 AM
Poor little Mike, the cynic in me says it was an excuse generating exercise to make some of our fans think oh we don't have any money and to also play on the southern media narrative we believe we have a divine right to be in the top 4/5 and compete with the teams up there

Nobody expects us to compete with City but competing with Bournemouth, Palace, Stoke, Brighton and that ilk is more than reasonable
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Geordiespark on August 12, 2017, 12:57:20 PM
Noticed how he said Rafa could have all the money generated by the club for transfer kitty . Then when the season tickets have been renewed the FCB moves the goal posts . You just cannot believe a word the FB says
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: shotleyskunk on August 12, 2017, 01:15:43 PM
After years of saying sod all, why go on Sky a couple of days before the season kicks off to try to justify what we already know ?.As other have said we do not expect him to spend what the top 6 spend..however Leicester have proved that you can still compete with these teams.
                                                          To speak out at this time is to concede we are 2nd or 3rd rate, and cannot do the confidence of the manager or players any good ahead of a game against one of the top 6...my heart bleeds for him, and his wallpaper money
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Poz on August 12, 2017, 02:42:20 PM
Just wrote a check for 200 million like to buy a plot of land - canny few rolls of wallpaper that :)
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Skoshi on August 13, 2017, 07:31:55 PM
stuck with the t**t, hard to believe we put up with him for 10yrs......
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on August 13, 2017, 10:49:40 PM
His lifestyle, however, means that he could drop dead from his diet of kebabs, lager and greggs in the next 10 at least...
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Wallsendlad52 on August 14, 2017, 10:37:05 AM
His lifestyle, however, means that he could drop dead from his diet of kebabs, lager and greggs in the next 10 at least...
                           If he did, there IS a god                 
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Deffy. on August 14, 2017, 05:44:00 PM
If he knows he cannot compeat he should sell.
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Brian Toon on August 14, 2017, 07:04:38 PM
Very depressing to be honest from a few weeks ago thinking we have money to spend, figures thrown around of 70 to 100 mil then around 15 mil spent we hear this crap of no money we have to sell to buy wtf. if we sold all the squad we wouldnt get 50 mil who the fcuk wants colback , Hanley , riviere ? ffs even sunlun didnt want copper head.what do we expect we all knew that was horeshit that we have money to spend this always painting over the cracks. The clown said when we win something he would consider to leave well we won the epl last year so pi55 off
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Surreymag on August 14, 2017, 08:18:51 PM
bollocks
A man of few words,straight to the point.I gather you don't agree with my prediction of us finishing 11-15th😀😀
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on August 14, 2017, 11:15:25 PM
Ashley runs the club as a going concern financially with as minimal outlay as possible in order to get the free marketing. During this time, pretty much every other owner in the premier league spunks their money away in the hope of short term success. It's a wonder the team can't compete... :suicide:

Anyone thinking the outward perception of the club in this situation is attracting sympathy from other football fans is lunacy - they're happy NUFC is a laughing stock and are baffled by any interest remaining in the team...my friends all support other teams and already think the squad is full of dead end career-ers and openly mock any level of optimism towards the team...

It's repeatedly said that the club cannot attract any players near the calibre necessary...Swansea, Stoke and WBA are seen as more ambitious teams and that's evidenced by their signings.
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Jonas14 on August 16, 2017, 01:56:25 AM
The above assessment of MA's game has to be sound.
nobody with zero ambition or even negative-ambition can compete with anybody with ambition. No matter the comparative size.
always feel he laughs about these interviews - the not going until we win something was a way if saying 'I'm not going anywhere and were not going to win anything - I'll see to that' and the being open to investment thing - like anybody is going to invest in someone else scheme without something in return ie power. That's effectively saying its not for sale rather than the auspice of inviting interest.

its just grim and I don't know what's to be done, save for dropping out the PL for good (no miss that'll be) and interest and crowds dropping to the point where he's losing money and there's nothing left to sell.

when Rafa goes, its the end to any pretence of being anything other than an advertising wing of his company, way too obviously for many but the last chance will be for us as fans to somehow get our s**t together in the wake of Rafa going and in the heat of the moment do something.
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: RobAir!! on August 16, 2017, 10:29:50 AM
To put it into perspective where we are as a club right now.

We have signed Joselu from Stoke with Stoke having just signed Jese from PSG (albeit a loan, ex Real Madrid). In terms of position a like for like replacement by Stoke.

This just shows how far we are off a club like Stoke.

Whats the difference in terms of wealth between MA and Stokes owner?

Seeing the Stoke squad now contain :

Jese
Shaqiri
Bojan
Afellay
(All UCL winners btw)

Imagine Rafa having the above mentioned players as his disposal?
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on August 16, 2017, 11:06:27 AM
To put it into perspective where we are as a club right now.

We have signed Joselu from Stoke with Stoke having just signed Jese from PSG (albeit a loan, ex Real Madrid). In terms of position a like for like replacement by Stoke.

This just shows how far we are off a club like Stoke.

Whats the difference in terms of wealth between MA and Stokes owner?

Seeing the Stoke squad now contain :

Jese
Shaqiri
Bojan
Afellay
(All UCL winners btw)

Imagine Rafa having the above mentioned players as his disposal?

Agree with your statement but these guys have all proven to be unable to improve Stoke to that level.
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: ledroses on August 16, 2017, 01:39:56 PM
I think the timing of the interview is strange but I do feel the content is genuine.

He doesnt know how to run a football club, he appoints the wrong people at the wrong time and keeps making stupid decisions eg renaming the stadium

I do think he means what he says that every penny the club makes Rafa will get but he has crippled the club in the last 10 years.

I only hope he has finally learnt a few lessons in the last 10 years and will put his trust in a proven manager. Let Rafa take care of the football side and keep the club financially safe whilst looking for investment (Chinese money seems to be going everywhere but the north east)
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Toon1 on August 17, 2017, 06:43:32 PM
This transfer window is a f***ing mess!!!!

Worst thing about it all is 2 year ago we got it spot on spending big - but we have the money to f***ing tufty & Carr and ended up going down!
If we had got that window right we could of set ourselves up comfortable now we are on catch up and when I see rumoured fees like drinkwater 40m clucas 20m & Evans 24m I honestly feel like giving up on football.
 It's becoming an absolute joke - I see the PL clubs talking about closing window early which is great idea - then all I see is sky interviewing agents who are f***ing leaches complaining about it. The game I fell in love with stood on gallowgate is dead now and it's all about greedy leaches taking what they can get for their own benefit f**k IT
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: peachy on August 17, 2017, 09:30:06 PM
This transfer window is a f***ing mess!!!!

Worst thing about it all is 2 year ago we got it spot on spending big - but we have the money to f***ing tufty & Carr and ended up going down!
If we had got that window right we could of set ourselves up comfortable now we are on catch up and when I see rumoured fees like drinkwater 40m clucas 20m & Evans 24m I honestly feel like giving up on football.
 It's becoming an absolute joke - I see the PL clubs talking about closing window early which is great idea - then all I see is sky interviewing agents who are f***ing leaches complaining about it. The game I fell in love with stood on gallowgate is dead now and it's all about greedy leaches taking what they can get for their own benefit f**k IT

All very annoying mate, hearing Oxlade chamberlain demanding ?150k a week to join Chelski> what the f*cks he ever done to deserve that??
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: shotleyskunk on August 17, 2017, 11:15:48 PM
All very annoying mate, hearing Oxlade chamberlain demanding ?150k a week to join Chelski> what the f*cks he ever done to deserve that??
He's done nowt, but sadly ?150k is the going rate, or should i say the starting point in negotiations for his agent. The massive TV cash bonanza and the mega rich owners who have thrown billions into certain clubs , and took the piss out of Fifa and its fairplay regulations. Being a supporter of a team who are relegation fodder does not sit easy with many supporters who saw Barcelona , Inter etc at St James' s in recent memory. Where this spiral of mega contracts for these decent / not world beater players will end..i just don know?. And the reality that we will struggle to compete is also a hard pill to swallow.
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: peachy on August 18, 2017, 11:14:50 AM
He's done nowt, but sadly ?150k is the going rate, or should i say the starting point in negotiations for his agent. The massive TV cash bonanza and the mega rich owners who have thrown billions into certain clubs , and took the piss out of Fifa and its fairplay regulations. Being a supporter of a team who are relegation fodder does not sit easy with many supporters who saw Barcelona , Inter etc at St James' s in recent memory. Where this spiral of mega contracts for these decent / not world beater players will end..i just don know?. And the reality that we will struggle to compete is also a hard pill to swallow.

I dont want us ever to go down that road again, both Owen and Luque should be seen as shining examples of where throwing ?100k wages at players get's you, absolutely nowhere just causes greed and jealousy amongst the group, Wijnaldum sissoko Townsend, Cisse couldn't wait to get away when we went down, in contrast Ritchie and Gayle were prepared to drop down a league to play for us for ?40k a week, better to try and build a team full of players with a passion for the club, steer clear of the bling types Chamberlain, Walcott, Rose, Sterling, etc.
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: NN1 on August 20, 2017, 03:56:30 PM
Clown with some PR & even suggesting we stopped progress of the club by not wanting the name change :nonono:

All the smiling to & you could tell he was bullshitting about his love of football growing up :suicide:
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: ohsholaameobi on August 20, 2017, 04:54:35 PM
Arguably the only time he's let a manager blow whatever he wanted was with McClaren, who was a f***ing catastrophe.
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: marki on August 20, 2017, 05:30:56 PM
you know, i think he might be pushing rafa to walk,doesnt like managers with huge influence and popularity ..and more importantly ambition , because it just defys any logic not backing the man to field a competetive team :?
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: marki on August 20, 2017, 05:47:40 PM
appointing benitez was a gamble to stave of relegation ,i dont think we would have went for him under any other circumstances and the cost of his wages would have been peanuts compared to the cost of relegation,i feel rafa has been used and now derailed..definately some mind games going on there
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: holycrosser on August 20, 2017, 08:26:30 PM

i'm already hating this club again
Title: Re: FMA interview
Post by: Skoshi on August 20, 2017, 09:06:48 PM
you know, i think he might be pushing rafa to walk,doesnt like managers with huge influence and popularity ..and more importantly ambition , because it just defys any logic not backing the man to field a competetive team :?

would not be surprised at all... cant sack him as it would cost a lot (i would imagine) so the only other option is to drop him in the sh*** till he walks away.