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Title: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: Surreymag on September 10, 2017, 11:33:01 PM
They have been banging on about this on M.O.D. I think it was the correct decision to book him there was no contact with the player unlike the challenge yesterday. I have to say at the time especially after yesterday I did wonder what the ref would do.

Judging by Chris Sutton's comments I think because of the decision yesterday he felt it should have been red. Similar challenge but no injury inflicted. Knowing our luck he'll probably get a 3 match ban because of them winging on about the refs being inconsistent and Klopp being upset!
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: Poz on September 10, 2017, 11:36:40 PM
Yep that's what I'm thinking - 2 out of 2 against us if they get their way.
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: peachy on September 10, 2017, 11:43:03 PM
yes it wouldnt surprise me like, .great player Ritchie but standing there on MOTD tonight saying he thought of Mane's challenge yesterday when he did it,....................so does he mean he was trying to f*cking emulate it?

Oh I don't know, I give up trying to second guess what footballers are thinking these days.  :nonono:
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: Toon1 on September 11, 2017, 05:54:46 AM
He was booked they can only change that decision in extreme circumstances
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: TK on September 11, 2017, 06:57:55 AM
yes it wouldnt surprise me like, .great player Ritchie but standing there on MOTD tonight saying he thought of Mane's challenge yesterday when he did it,....................so does he mean he was trying to f*cking emulate it?

Probably just thinking how it might've looked tbf.

Wasn't as high, so not as dangerous - that alone might justify slight leniency?
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: Surreymag on September 11, 2017, 07:29:44 AM
He was booked they can only change that decision in extreme circumstances
hope so time will tell. They love a debate on M.O.D. about our players that's for sure.
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: peachy on September 11, 2017, 09:12:59 AM
Probably just thinking how it might've looked tbf.

Wasn't as high, so not as dangerous - that alone might justify slight leniency?

i beg to differ, it was just as high, mawson is 6'2 and standing at full height and ritchies boot is virtually the same height as his head, Ederson is the same height as Mawson but he is crouching slightly on contact so i would deduce from that both kicks were about the same height.  :)

(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/ritch.jpg)
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2017/09/09/TELEMMGLPICT000139830992_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqM37qcIWR9CtrqmiMdQVx7JJcVarsFwIVJlxZSDOb3_g.jpeg?imwidth=480)
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: Toon1 on September 11, 2017, 09:50:18 AM
I think the main difference is Ritchie didn't connect with his face - that will probably be the refs explanation.

To be honest on first look I didn't think he caught him at all but replay shows he connected with his arm so has probably got away with one
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on September 11, 2017, 11:45:45 AM
High boots are yellow cards. If you catch an opponent then it is violent conduct and a red card.

I don't see why it needs to be discussed - the media is baying for more Newcastle player bans.
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: gaspytoon on September 11, 2017, 01:19:50 PM
For me i think a yellow card is fair, If the attacking playing is looking at the player & catches the defender, YES it is a red. If the attacking player is looking at the ball then NO it should be a yellow.

OK the foot maybe high but the striker is just trying to win the ball. If you take that type of play out of the game then players would be criticised for not showing eagerness to score :thumbs:
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: ohsholaameobi on September 11, 2017, 01:49:11 PM
Think both of them were bookings, ball came over Mane's shoulder and he didn't even see the keeper. They both had eyes for the ball only. How many times have you seen keepers come out with their foot raised into a striker's chest and not get punished? It's a contact sport, dangerous yes but not malicious.
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: peachy on September 11, 2017, 02:19:02 PM
He did see the keeper coming out, just because your main focus is the ball doesn't mean you can't see anything else going on to the left or right of the ball, unless you are wearing horses blinkers, Not that I'm saying he meant to kick him in the face but you can't have players flying around with their studs at  heights of 6 feet, that's fooking kung-fu not football.  :roll: 
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: ohsholaameobi on September 11, 2017, 03:33:42 PM
He did see the keeper coming out, just because your main focus is the ball doesn't mean you can't see anything else going on to the left or right of the ball, unless you are wearing horses blinkers, Not that I'm saying he meant to kick him in the face but you can't have players flying around with their studs at  heights of 6 feet, that's fooking kung-fu not football.  :roll: 

Bear in mind how fast it's going, Mane was probably running 20mph and it was well out the box
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: intheboxagain on September 11, 2017, 05:44:53 PM
in my opinion neither of the two challenges appeared particularly malicious, but both could have endangered their respective opponent which under the laws of the game is classed as serious foul play and warrants a red card.

Ritchie got away with it :thumbs: (and he's said as much himself)

Mawsons reaction afterward could only have helped ritchies case as well

Ritchie said: ?I had my eye on the ball but Mawson came lower than Ederson.

"I was delighted to see only a yellow card. I looked to the referee and I was lucky.?
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: R S on September 11, 2017, 07:00:07 PM
i beg to differ, it was just as high, mawson is 6'2 and standing at full height and ritchies boot is virtually the same height as his head, Ederson is the same height as Mawson but he is crouching slightly on contact so i would deduce from that both kicks were about the same height.  :)

(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/ritch.jpg)
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2017/09/09/TELEMMGLPICT000139830992_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqM37qcIWR9CtrqmiMdQVx7JJcVarsFwIVJlxZSDOb3_g.jpeg?imwidth=480)


Richie's foot is 6' in the air?  There's me thinking he's a shortarse but he must be over 9 foot tall as his foot is chest high. Football is a contact sport and accidents happen.
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: peachy on September 11, 2017, 10:03:56 PM
RS,  Mawson is 6ft 2, in that pic he is standing at full height and the toe of ritchies boot is in line with Mawsons ear,.correct? therefore Ritchie who is 5ft 8 is showing his studs at about the 6ft mark, and considering he has sat and watched Mane get sent off the day before for the exact same thing the question needs to be asked,...where the f*ck does he keep hs brains?
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: mazme4ever on September 11, 2017, 10:59:05 PM
Why is it every time there is a contentious issue with a Newcastle player the ex-player/so called commentators brigade come out baying for blood. Yet if it happened to one of their ex-team mates you wouldn't hear a word.
Title: Re: Ritchie challenge- correct decision?
Post by: Basileus on September 23, 2017, 08:29:01 PM
Theres some "I believe anything the media says" zombies on here.
Mane's boot clearly made contact with Ederson's face - FULL ON AT SPEED.
Not deliberate but could cause SERIOUS damage. A deserved red
Ritchie's like Mane following ball, NO CONTACT - helped by Mawson not cheating. Honest - rare in this game now. A deserved yellow and lucky maybe, but it's hardly rare to see that happening. The media dug it out because it was one of their teams. If it had been the other way round it wouldn't have had so much as a mention