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Title: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 08, 2017, 01:32:35 PM
"I enjoyed it at Newcastle, but it was difficult playing there. I was a young man and struggled to deal with the level of adoration. I just wanted to play football, go home and go out with my mates.

"When I went out, some punters would say, "Well done". That was fine. Others wanted to hold court with you.

"I could be having a meal with my missus and people would come up and want to get involved in the conversation. It did my fruit in.

"I loved my football at Newcastle, but I felt trapped. And the more goals I scored, the worse it got. From the milkman to the bloke in the paper shop, everyone wanted to talk about football, football, football."


You f*cking ungrateful tw*t!
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Bob the skutter on October 08, 2017, 03:08:11 PM
I can understand where he's coming from. For an introvert that must be exhausting.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 08, 2017, 03:13:27 PM
Some dont know how lucky they are, Jenas another one, "goldfish bowl"?? my ar*e, man up you bunch of fairies.  :mad:
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Bob the skutter on October 08, 2017, 03:22:19 PM
Have you ever thought of specializing in the field of mental health? Youu'd be great at it... :o

"man up" FFS.  :nonono:
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 08, 2017, 03:24:35 PM
It had crossed my mind yes  :D
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: ohsholaameobi on October 08, 2017, 04:13:28 PM
He's not wrong, there's a fair few up here go arse over tit trying to get pictures with players in the metro and that. Must be a nightmare when you just want to get on with your day or you're with the family
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: nufcjon on October 08, 2017, 06:35:19 PM
Man up.. what a load of s***. Everyone is entitled to privacy, well paid or not
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Scoot on October 08, 2017, 08:18:28 PM
Seen him on Sky sports earlier, some programme about his career and he just seems a right f***ing tossa like to be honest.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 08, 2017, 08:36:05 PM
Man up.. what a load of s***. Everyone is entitled to privacy, well paid or not

Oh, man up jon, or put your lass on (if youve got one  :D)

These feckers are living lives of old riley with their mansions and fleets of bentleys, challenge them to live YOUR life for a week that'd give them something to whinge about, crawling out of a skip every morning, and heading for the nearest park bench armed with their LIDL carrier bag full of cans of cider theyve nicked the night before, spend the day intimidating passers-by and swearing at parked cars.

Just the fact that they complain about such trivial matters when they have riches above our wildest dreams should be seen as an insult to our comparatively shallow existence and therefore they should keep it to them F*CKING SELVES and just accept that it is all part and parcel of being f*cking FAMOUS!!

OK, you can run along to your skip now jon.... pleasant dreams lad   :lol:
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Bob the skutter on October 08, 2017, 10:02:31 PM
For the last time, if you are an introvert as Cole is, that sort of attention can be exhausting.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Deffy. on October 08, 2017, 10:08:02 PM
Some people cant handle the constant pressure of media/fans attention.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Jonas14 on October 09, 2017, 01:27:56 AM
Think i share a birthday with him, but anyway get the introvert thing and why it was a chore for him but at the same time you're a well paid supposed professional footballer, and should get some perspective. In his position i don't think 'man up' is that harsh.
like Scoot has said, for me he's always seemed like a d*ck. Find him totally uncool and the juxtaposition of that and him trying to be cool, awkward.

Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 09, 2017, 10:44:02 PM
don't get me wrong i feel foe people with shyness and that, but us buggers suffering with rent arrears and final demands for council tax find his comments demoralising, this man has wealth beyond our dreams and has no idea how it feels to worry about keeping a roof over your head or affording food for your kids to eat, he's never known none of that,...ever"

facking ungrateful c*nt!!
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Bob the skutter on October 10, 2017, 01:56:17 AM
That's not even relevant man.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on October 10, 2017, 11:03:32 PM
He's allowed respite. He's also allowed to say it wasn't perfect. People need to get over themselves. Imagine being a plumber and people only wanting to tell you about their leaky toilet.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 11, 2017, 07:33:15 AM
He's allowed respite. He's also allowed to say it wasn't perfect. People need to get over themselves. Imagine being a plumber and people only wanting to tell you about their leaky toilet.

You're comparing the lifestyle of a muliti-millionnaire footballer to that of a plumber?

Get a grip lad  :roll:
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Deffy. on October 11, 2017, 08:07:42 AM
The amount of money a person has/makes has no impact on their emotional wellbeing.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 11, 2017, 08:17:28 AM
The amount of money a person has/makes has no impact on their emotional wellbeing.

Well I totally disagree with that statement deffy, totally.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Deffy. on October 11, 2017, 08:26:43 AM
Some people just cant take the constant attention they get. Just have to look at George Best and Gazza to see that.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 11, 2017, 09:07:24 AM
Some people just cant take the constant attention they get. Just have to look at George Best and Gazza to see that.

Not true, They were both attention SEEKERS if anything, Best just wanted to drink and sh*g beauty queens because that is just the way he was, he loved football, the adulation of the fans, the fame, the money, but he was always going to be an alcohollic regardless of what job he did, Gazzas problems started towards the end of his career, in fact once he married that bloody dreadful woman who would never have looked at him twice had he not been a famous rich footballer all she wanted was his kid then she had him exactly where she wanted him and thats where his big problems started, nothing to do with fans constantly harrassing him or anything like that and ofcourse once he had finished football he said because footballers are so over-pampered he didnt even know how to write a cheque out himself because clubs do everything for the players except wipe their fooking arses, and yet the likes of Cole STILL have something to whinge about, yes we love our football up here, and if fans met him in town what does he expect them to talk about, knitting perhaps? or cake decoration? the guy even moaned about being called Andy because his mum likes him to be called Andrew,.....you couldn't f*cking make this sh*t up, seriously.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Deffy. on October 11, 2017, 09:40:37 AM
As part of my job I had to take a course on how to handle people with emotional issues. Vast wealth does not automaticaly mean emotional/mental stability. You gain money whike you are born with emotional stability.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Basileus on October 11, 2017, 03:25:14 PM
I agree with the original poster. This stinks of whining bullshit.
I seem to recall Cole joined in an anti-Newcastle song that a couple of Man players actually apologized for after the 99 cup final. No apology from Cole.
You can bet if he DIDN'T get the idolatry he'd have whined about the reasons WHY he wasn't getting it. (Usual PC crap I'd guess)
Of course if you're dining etc in the Manchester area you're not going to be bothered with Man U fans, now are you ?
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Basileus on October 11, 2017, 09:55:32 PM
You're comparing the lifestyle of a muliti-millionnaire footballer to that of a plumber?

Get a grip lad  :roll:
I mean look at the pompous whining self-obsessed NFL "knee protesters" for these creatures living on a different planet full of self-everything
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 11, 2017, 10:49:02 PM
I mean look at the pompous whining self-obsessed NFL "knee protesters" for these creatures living on a different planet full of self-everything

they dont know they're facking born mate
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 11, 2017, 11:00:27 PM
As part of my job I had to take a course on how to handle people with emotional issues. Vast wealth does not automaticaly mean emotional/mental stability. You gain money whike you are born with emotional stability.

...or you're born with emotional instability in his case,,
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Deffy. on October 11, 2017, 11:04:36 PM
...or you're born with emotional instability in his case,,

If thats the case no amount of money will make him happier.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: TT on October 12, 2017, 12:02:07 AM
So chirpy...Georgie Best and Gazza born with alcoholism ?
Family have any history of this on their scale?
Think you?ll find the answer is no.
Do you not think fame and fortune had anything to do with Gazza?s ultimate fate?
You obviously have no f***ing idea about mental health issues that be enhanced in any shape of life wether it?s fame/wealth or everyday life.
Can you explain Gary Speed committing suicide?... was he cry out for attention as you and basstadious reckon?
Plus who the f**k gives two f***s what Andy Cole thinks.... the lad has only suffered from kidney complaints for years...wouldn?t wish that on anyone even f***ing s*** posters like yersel.

Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 12, 2017, 09:19:22 AM
I'm sure I read that Georgie Bests mum was an alcoholic/

Gazza had treatment for depression aged 13 so you can't say his problems started totally when he was rich and famous, aged 10 he took his freinds little brother to a sweet shop and the kid ran across the road and was killed by an ice-cream van and Gazza has always blamed himself for that incident.

Neither me or that other person have even mentioned Gary Speed, and what has he got to do with Coles ridiculous comments anyway?

Ofcourse we give a f*ck what Andy Cole says, he will always be remembered as one of our best ever strikers, one of the big four alongside Gallacher, MacDonald and Shearer, I was there for the 7-1 in '93 against leicester and to hear the andy cole chant being sung by all four sides of the ground was deafening, the love for this bloke was unbelievable, fans even slagging Keegan off for selling him,....so when he says daft things like the fans wouldn't leave him alone when he was out with his lass (erm who he assaulted a few years later) then obviously we are gonna talk about it.

The lad was only here a couple of years scored 68 goals in 85apps which by anyones standards is an absolutely phenomenal strike rate, his place in toon history as one of the greats is well and truly banked......so why the hell does he need to add this to it? why not just accept that being rich and famous is not always a bed of roses.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on October 12, 2017, 12:21:46 PM
It's abundantly clear that people don't accept mental health as a concern all the time because it isn't something visible and there are simple reasons why it shouldn't be a problem.

The truth is everyone has complexes and a chip on their shoulder about something, even if it is minor or they are good at suppressing it. People are allowed to not like their jobs, or just aspects of them. This isn't China, we're allowed to have free thoughts and expression.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 12, 2017, 07:36:08 PM
Oh I'm all for free thoughts and expression mate, I'm not asking for him to be shot or anything f*ck sake, but in this case I just don't understand why he would want to tarnish the memories the fans have of him as a great striker by bringing these things up 20 years later, I don't see what he has to gain from it,
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on October 13, 2017, 10:27:00 AM
Oh I'm all for free thoughts and expression mate, I'm not asking for him to be shot or anything f*ck sake, but in this case I just don't understand why he would want to tarnish the memories the fans have of him as a great striker by bringing these things up 20 years later, I don't see what he has to gain from it,

Likely to be something he was asked about - these guys only impart views through that or while working in punditry or writing a memoir
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 13, 2017, 10:54:45 AM
Yes we know it was something he was asked about it was a question and answer session with fans in FourFourTwo.

Q:  A mad Newcastle fan got a tattoo of you on his leg just before you signed for Man United. Did he ever get in touch, asking for his money back? Seriously, though, what was it like to be in a football-mad city like Newcastle?
Matt Wilding, Crouch End

A: "He never got in touch, but I?m sure he regretted it. It was so big that even laser treatment would have taken a long time. I enjoyed it at Newcastle, but it was difficult playing there. I was a young man and struggled to deal with the level of adoration. I just wanted to play football, go home and go out with my mates.

When I went out, some punters would say, ?Well done?. That was fine. Others wanted to hold court with you. I could be having a meal with my missus and people would come up and want to get involved in the conversation. It did my fruit in. I loved my football at Newcastle, but I felt trapped. And the more goals I scored, the worse it got. From the milkman to the bloke in the paper shop, everyone wanted to talk about football, football, football".

Now clearly most on here have no problem with that, which is fine, personally I think he could have avoided anything that can be seen, or some say misconstrued, as a dig at toon fans by whom he was idolised, I'm sure that can't be the first time he's been asked a question like that, so why bring it up 20 years later?  very disappointing if you ask me.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Deffy. on October 13, 2017, 11:06:15 AM
Dont see anything wrong with his answers.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 13, 2017, 11:25:42 AM
Ahh well, at least this person agrees with me that it comes across as disrespectful  :D

http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2017/10/09/andy-cole-makes-disrespectful-comments-about-nufc-fans-when-reflecting-on-his-time-with-the-club/
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Deffy. on October 13, 2017, 11:29:39 AM
I see it as someone who is p***** off at getting no privacy. Being harrased by idiots when hes out with family/friends. Id be p***** off too.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 13, 2017, 11:34:37 AM
You calling toon fans "idiots" now ?  :! :!
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Deffy. on October 13, 2017, 01:35:39 PM
You calling toon fans "idiots" now ?  :! :!

If they harrass someone whos out with friends/family they are.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 13, 2017, 03:04:50 PM
Many years ago I was in asda when it was part of the metrocentre and Pav (R.I.P.) was in shopping with his missus, they got thru the checkout and were walking towards the exit when a young girl approached him for his autograph and he kindly obliged, and while he was signing for her another two girls ran up for his autograph, suddenly lasses started appearing from everywhere, at first his wife just waited patiently but once he was surrounded she just turned away shaking her head and pushed the trolley out to the car, meanwhile Pav was smiling and happily chatting with the lasses as he signed his name wherever they wanted it signed, on another evening I saw Beardsley in the same shop pushing a trolley and he had his little daughter (must have been Stacey,...obviously) sat in the baby seat facing him, think she must have been about 2 or 18mths old, and he had his face really close to hers and was saying "We're going round to the sweets now, mmmm chocolate and sweets..." which my lass at the time thought was really cute,  :roll:  :yawn: but anyway a member of asda staff asked him for his autograph and he signed it but carried on talking to the baby at the same time then another few lads wanted his autograph and i could tell he was starting to get flustered, now this i can understand because the bairn was starting to get a bit upset and started crying which as any lad on here who has kids knows is the last thing you want.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Scrivener on October 13, 2017, 06:07:38 PM
As part of my job I had to take a course on how to handle people with emotional issues. Vast wealth does not automaticaly mean emotional/mental stability. You gain money whike you are born with emotional stability.

I should have figured you are a Nurse - your caring and compassionate nature shines through
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: Scrivener on October 13, 2017, 06:14:42 PM
Many years ago I was in asda when it was part of the metrocentre and Pav (R.I.P.) was in shopping with his missus, they got thru the checkout and were walking towards the exit when a young girl approached him for his autograph and he kindly obliged, and while he was signing for her another two girls ran up for his autograph, suddenly lasses started appearing from everywhere, at first his wife just waited patiently but once he was surrounded she just turned away shaking her head and pushed the trolley out to the car, meanwhile Pav was smiling and happily chatting with the lasses as he signed his name wherever they wanted it signed, on another evening I saw Beardsley in the same shop pushing a trolley and he had his little daughter (must have been Stacey,...obviously) sat in the baby seat facing him, think she must have been about 2 or 18mths old, and he had his face really close to hers and was saying "We're going round to the sweets now, mmmm chocolate and sweets..." which my lass at the time thought was really cute,  :roll:  :yawn: but anyway a member of asda staff asked him for his autograph and he signed it but carried on talking to the baby at the same time then another few lads wanted his autograph and i could tell he was starting to get flustered, now this i can understand because the bairn was starting to get a bit upset and started crying which as any lad on here who has kids knows is the last thing you want.

Pav was an absolute gent, as was PB, who frequently got stopped by bunches of kids when out and about and always graced him with his time and obliged with autographs even when he had his own kids with him.

Andy Cole in comparison was an aloof bugger and the adulation comes with the territory. He could have handled the way he interacted with fans rather better and gave a little back, even if not to the extent of the likes of Pav or Beardo. Shay Given is another who stands out in my mind in having a great attitude with the fans and capable of building up a rapport.
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 13, 2017, 11:35:52 PM
Pav was an absolute gent, as was PB, who frequently got stopped by bunches of kids when out and about and always graced him with his time and obliged with autographs even when he had his own kids with him.

Andy Cole in comparison was an aloof bugger and the adulation comes with the territory. He could have handled the way he interacted with fans rather better and gave a little back, even if not to the extent of the likes of Pav or Beardo. Shay Given is another who stands out in my mind in having a great attitude with the fans and capable of building up a rapport.

yes you are absolutley right,

Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: TT on October 13, 2017, 11:55:28 PM
Do a lot of  f***ing shopping you lad...are you a bint like?
Title: Re: andy cole
Post by: peachy on October 14, 2017, 12:27:56 AM
Do a lot of  f***ing shopping you lad...are you a bint like?

very funny.


We just liked going there, we also saw lee clark Billy Hardy, gordon armstrong, denise welch, jimmy five bellies, Ginola