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Title: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on December 04, 2017, 10:22:05 AM
Rafa has to consider a 3 man midfield for this game of Hayden, Shelvey and Merino, and dump Perez.

I can see Gayle playing lone striker if he has a Shelvey to play through balls (as opposed to crosses).
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: peachy on December 04, 2017, 10:26:34 AM
must win, dump friggin diame aswell,i'm giving this match and everton a miss, my next game is citeh 
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Steve169 on December 04, 2017, 12:22:44 PM
                      Darlow

   Yedlin   Lascelles   Clark    Mbemba

                Merino   Shelvey

Murphy           Ritchie                Atsu

                     Mitrovic

Definitely wont be but I'd like to see it !
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: john88 on December 04, 2017, 01:59:35 PM
should probably give up on anything related to mitrovic. He's finished at this club. Matt Ritchie back to the right, instead of the puzzling left wing back role. Aarons for Murphy should be a no-brainer. Lascelles in for Lejeune, who's looked awful recently.

line up

--------------------DARLOW---------------------

YEDLIN----LASCELLES---CLARK----MBEMBA

-------HAYDEN-----SHELVEY-----MERINO------

-RITCHIE-----------GAYLE-----------AARONS--
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Surreymag on December 04, 2017, 06:09:35 PM
should probably give up on anything related to mitrovic. He's finished at this club. Matt Ritchie back to the right, instead of the puzzling left wing back role. Aarons for Murphy should be a no-brainer. Lascelles in for Lejeune, who's looked awful recently.

line up

--------------------DARLOW---------------------

YEDLIN----LASCELLES---CLARK----MBEMBA

-------HAYDEN-----SHELVEY-----MERINO------

-RITCHIE-----------GAYLE-----------AARONS--

That is a half decent looking side. Please no more Diame or Perez there are alternatives use them!
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Surreymag on December 04, 2017, 06:11:31 PM
That is a half decent looking side. Please no more Diame or Perez there are alternatives use them!
Forgot to say I think we will draw 1-1 with that side lose if Diame and the other lame ducks are in the side.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Surreymag on December 04, 2017, 06:24:27 PM
Also why do I have Quote Modify Remove on my posts?! Everyone else just has Quote!
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: holycrosser on December 04, 2017, 07:11:39 PM

they are better than us and will win  :nonono:
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: johndavey11 on December 04, 2017, 08:43:09 PM
That is a half decent looking side. Please no more Diame or Perez there are alternatives use them!
to be honest that is our strongest 11 right now, no back up what so ever though.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: R S on December 04, 2017, 10:56:06 PM
they are better than us and will win  :nonono:
Yes, yes they will. Comfortably. Although it may be postponed due to snow.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on December 06, 2017, 05:59:25 PM
With confidence high last season at this stage, I'd have said Newcastle would have been easily able to turn over Leicester at home, even whilst as a championship team.

Particularly after that feckless performance against Watford and poor games in constructing attacks against Cheslea, Manchester United, West Brom and Bournemouth, I'd say Newcastle have minimal chances of walking away with 3 points on Saturday.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: French on December 07, 2017, 04:25:04 PM
Although 6 points from the next 2 home games would be amazing, I think we can realistically get 3 or 4 points.

I think we have a better chance against the Toffies.

Leicester seems veey good at the moment ; the combination of Mahrez, Okazaki and Vardy against our febrile defenders is rather concerning.

1-1
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: peachy on December 07, 2017, 07:02:20 PM
Congratulations to Jacob Murphy winning the FUN88 player of the month for November, I wouldnt have given it to any of the useless feckers.  :roll:
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: peachy on December 08, 2017, 02:01:39 PM
Lascelles expected to start against Leicester, Atsu also available might start, dummett still out but playing for reserves tonight.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: little toon town on December 08, 2017, 04:38:41 PM
                      Darlow

   Yedlin   Lascelles   Clark    Mbemba

                Merino   Shelvey

Murphy           Ritchie                Atsu

                     Mitrovic

Definitely wont be but I'd like to see it !

This is how I'd have the team, tho I'd be tempted to have Ritchie on the wing instead of Atsu, and then play Perez up top with Mitro just behind. It worked when Rafa did it at WBA, we looked more of a threat and gave Perez a chance to run off balls from Mitro.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Surreymag on December 09, 2017, 12:04:07 AM
This is how I'd have the team, tho I'd be tempted to have Ritchie on the wing instead of Atsu, and then play Perez up top with Mitro just behind. It worked when Rafa did it at WBA, we looked more of a threat and gave Perez a chaence to run off balls from Mitro.
No chance of Mitro starting he's one for the transfer list.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: French on December 09, 2017, 04:36:57 PM
WTF with this startinf XI seriously taking the piss here :mad:
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: saintefi on December 09, 2017, 04:39:15 PM
No matter how much you hate Ashley or like Benitez, Benitez is just being stupid now!!!
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: elskin44 on December 09, 2017, 04:39:30 PM
that team today,rafas gotta be up to something for transfer cash to pick a team like that :(
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: ToonArmyFan on December 09, 2017, 04:40:28 PM
26Darlow
22Yedlin
20Lejeune
2Clark
19Manquillo
14Hayden
23Merino
11Ritchie
7Murphy
21Joselu
9Gayle

f***ing joselu again WTF is rafa thinking!!!!
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: elskin44 on December 09, 2017, 04:42:24 PM
he has lost the plot
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: saintefi on December 09, 2017, 04:48:03 PM
Crazy what kick started our mini run was Rafa been in the hospital. Seems he is clueless.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: French on December 09, 2017, 04:49:47 PM
M'Bemba dropped and Joselu brought back ! Crazy stuff.
It seems like Rafa is doing everything to put us in the relegation zone as fast as he can!
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 09, 2017, 05:01:52 PM
He's a stubborn w***ker.. too much about him
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: saintefi on December 09, 2017, 05:05:07 PM
He's a stubborn w***ker.. too much about him

Thats because the fans keep singing his praise, though he is not worth it.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: johndavey11 on December 09, 2017, 05:18:50 PM
what has mbemba done to deserve getting dropped?. joselu,,,just give up..no shelvey?
4 of the 5 teams below us have won today... and rafa puts a team out like this! its like he has fukin lost it.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: marki on December 09, 2017, 05:24:26 PM
looks quite offensive apart from hayden..got to play shelvey
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: john88 on December 09, 2017, 05:35:48 PM
Joselu

oh my days
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: ToonArmyFan on December 09, 2017, 05:35:56 PM
f***ing joselu the donkey scored  :lol:
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: marki on December 09, 2017, 05:36:46 PM
thats joselu in the team for the next 10 games :lol:
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: TK on December 09, 2017, 05:40:18 PM
Rafa sometimes knows best...

Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: john88 on December 09, 2017, 05:44:22 PM
bound to be rewarded at some point, through just sheer persistence of selection
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 09, 2017, 05:45:04 PM
Rafa sometimes knows best...


Oh f**k off :)
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 09, 2017, 05:51:21 PM
f***ing awful save
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Jinker on December 09, 2017, 05:51:30 PM
The one thing about Ritchie is he never hides even if it doesn't come off for him.  Darlow  FFS.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Leo7 on December 09, 2017, 05:52:57 PM
Why all the time at SJP someone seems to score a screamer (albeit should of been saved) against us, or comes close to a screamer on our pitch the games always seem so open
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Jinker on December 09, 2017, 05:57:14 PM
Our keeper is being targeted as he's flapping. The midfield is wide open.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 09, 2017, 06:11:45 PM
Joselu is so s*** 😂
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Leo7 on December 09, 2017, 06:21:28 PM
When it said passes: Newcastle 75 Leicester 205 it was embarresing this is Leicester not Man City
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: peachy on December 09, 2017, 06:28:20 PM
all these early goals are smashing, we'd be in the top four if football matches only lasted 15 minutes  :roll:
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: john88 on December 09, 2017, 06:47:53 PM
1-2 game over? season heading one way now
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 09, 2017, 06:48:33 PM
No Shelvey
No Lascelles
Starting Joselu...

f**k you rafa
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: johndavey11 on December 09, 2017, 06:50:33 PM
same old...same old...every week...30 per cent possesion at home,,,11 men behind the ball..we look more out of our depth every week
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Jinker on December 09, 2017, 06:51:48 PM
Benitez would be sacked at any other club by now. Persisting with donkeys is a major flaw to me. Not sure what he's coaching them but it isn't how to defend.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: marki on December 09, 2017, 06:53:24 PM
the seasons been a joke really..maybe will have the last laugh
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 09, 2017, 06:54:00 PM
But you will still get people who say we should be blessed to have him

He's doing nothing positive for me
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: john88 on December 09, 2017, 06:56:13 PM
hasnt done anything positive for a while. i'd be happy to get rid, it's dire football. Yes the squad is poor, but the football was awful in the championship too. He also wasted ?12m on murphy types, when we needed PL experienced players.

This just reminds me of what we endured under McClaren. Nothing has changed.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 09, 2017, 06:56:49 PM
Mitro with 12 to go?
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: dec6767 on December 09, 2017, 06:57:35 PM
embarrassing
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Jinker on December 09, 2017, 07:00:18 PM
What Murphy brings to the team is a mystery to me. Watching him give up on chasing back sums him up.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: dec6767 on December 09, 2017, 07:01:41 PM
Thank f**k for that, at least Gayle has proved he can score goals
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Jinker on December 09, 2017, 07:02:00 PM
2 - 2 do you believe we'll go on to win?
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Jinker on December 09, 2017, 07:12:35 PM
What is the matter with our pkayers? Great position to cross but fanny's on. Atsu we mean you.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 09, 2017, 07:14:48 PM
f***ing shambles
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: john88 on December 09, 2017, 07:15:36 PM
2 - 2 do you believe we'll go on to win?

no, cos we're 2-3 down
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 09, 2017, 07:15:46 PM
3 minutes for mitro
Great management
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: dec6767 on December 09, 2017, 07:16:14 PM
what the flying f**k was perez doing? seriously what the f**k? wasn't even a tackle he just slotted it home in our own net, clown
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Jinker on December 09, 2017, 07:16:54 PM
Benitez is taking the piss. Miro 4 minutes left.  It's like watching the comedy club. Unreal that the Toon have become this laughing stock.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Jinker on December 09, 2017, 07:18:31 PM
no, cos we're 2-3 down


Me neither and that was before Perez scored (for them).
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 09, 2017, 07:18:57 PM
I would like someone to explain to me what Rafa is doing that is great?
Are we well coached? Well drilled? Consistent?

I honestly don't see how he is any better than if pardew was here
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Leo7 on December 09, 2017, 07:21:11 PM
Going down, worlds most unluckiest and shittest team
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: dec6767 on December 09, 2017, 07:22:19 PM
I would like someone to explain to me what Rafa is doing that is great?
Are we well coached? Well drilled? Consistent?

I honestly don't see how he is any better than if pardew was here

the consensus is our squad is so sh*** than no one could do any different anyway, at least if we get a budget benitez could organise that particular piss up
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Jinker on December 09, 2017, 07:22:42 PM
Dropping like a stone.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 09, 2017, 07:23:30 PM
the consensus is our squad is so sh*** than no one could do any different anyway, at least if we get a budget benitez could organise that particular piss up
But surely this elite mastermind could do something?
Or is he s***... And always managed good teams where anyone could get success
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: dec6767 on December 09, 2017, 07:25:25 PM
But surely this elite mastermind could do something?
Or is he s***... And always managed good teams where anyone could get success

who knows i think we could do a pulis every game but without a striker or a winger that isn't named atsu or murphy we wont score even with guardiola
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: saintefi on December 09, 2017, 07:26:17 PM
But surely this elite mastermind could do something?
Or is he s***... And always managed good teams where anyone could get success

s*** that managed good teams.
What sense does it make bringing on Mitro in last 4 minutes, when you wasted 86 minutes playing Joselu
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Brian Toon on December 09, 2017, 07:27:19 PM
I would like someone to explain to me what Rafa is doing that is great?
Are we well coached? Well drilled? Consistent?

I honestly don't see how he is any better than if pardew was here


Ok who would you want as manager ? whos going to go to a sh*** relegation team with no money  ? Maybe the likes of pardew might come back . The only thing this fcked club has that has won anything or been close is rafa . Our best players are tired and need a rest. Seriously people on here would bitch if we had mourinho
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: johndavey11 on December 09, 2017, 07:31:10 PM
we look a mess all over the park, conceding 3 nearly every week, lejuene...guy looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights , more rugby tackles than football ones, manquillo... never in a million years a prem league defender, joselu l1 at best. 20 million investment?...not even close!
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Finnish Geordie on December 09, 2017, 07:33:54 PM
Dont know if cry or laugh  :( :lol:

And thats nothing new for Nufc supporter. Just sell the club fat ass
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: saintefi on December 09, 2017, 07:35:23 PM

Ok who would you want as manager ? whos going to go to a sh*** relegation team with no money  ? Maybe the likes of pardew might come back . The only thing this fcked club has that has won anything or been close is rafa . Our best players are tired and need a rest. Seriously people on here would bitch if we had mourinho

Would bitch if Murinho coached like Rafa. Tell me, Mitro needs a rest ?
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 09, 2017, 07:36:26 PM

Ok who would you want as manager ? whos going to go to a sh*** relegation team with no money  ? Maybe the likes of pardew might come back . The only thing this fcked club has that has won anything or been close is rafa . Our best players are tired and need a rest. Seriously people on here would bitch if we had mourinho
Not knowing who I would want instead doesn't make Rafa good?
He is making loads of mistakes, and we are losing loads of games

Teams like Huddersfield and Brighton have no superstars and manage to play football
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: silverbullet on December 09, 2017, 07:41:33 PM
what the flying f**k was perez doing? seriously what the f**k? wasn't even a tackle he just slotted it home in our own net, clown
At least Perez was busting a gut to get back .It followed on from the absolutely useless Manquillo falling over in their box when he had a chance to shoot. Never thought the day would come whent I would be praying for Dummet to return
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: dec6767 on December 09, 2017, 07:43:06 PM
At least Perez was busting a gut to get back .It followed on from the absolutely useless Manquillo falling over in their box when he had a chance to shoot. Never thought the day would come whent I would be praying for Dummet to return

"busting a gut"?!!! are you f***ing kidding me?

watch this: https://www.clippituser.tv/c/nwearb

and tell me Perez was "busting his gut"

he's f***ing sh***, running around occasionally like a headless chicken doesnt make him less sh***
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Surreymag on December 09, 2017, 07:48:33 PM
Oh dear this is now becoming a crisis situation. Our defence is all over the place midfield non existent up top not a lot going on. We are in the s*** and I can see no way out. To continue with the likes of Murphey and most of the defence not to mention Joselu is rediculous. Is Shelvey injured? We will be in the bottom 3 very soon and without investment we will be heading back to the Championship. Oh well we kind of knew this was likely to happen. Thanks Mike Ashley you complete and utter s*** for brains t**t!
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: gaspytoon on December 09, 2017, 07:55:00 PM
Same old s**t, another game. Who want's to invest in a club who's struggling? Ashley's not going to throw any money our way while a takeover is hanging around & if it does happen, the window will be closed before we can get any players, a long & miserable 2nd half of the season ahead :nonono:

 

Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Geordiespark on December 09, 2017, 07:59:22 PM
At the start of the season the defence was pretty good , we do need a keeper as Elliot and Darlow are pants , I cannot understand why Shelvey did not start as he made a difference at Chelsea . Some of Rafas team selections are really hard to take . If that fat useless lump of lard had released enough money for a decent striker in the closed season we would not be in this position . He will have to do something in January or his NUFC investment is going to go tits up . I hate feeling like this after a match but when you are watching the game you just know whats going to happen , wish I could do that with the lottery .
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: R S on December 09, 2017, 08:06:21 PM
Ashley better sell or we're down
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: GULLANDTOON on December 09, 2017, 08:21:43 PM
Sorry, but that was stupid management bringing Perez on for me. That guy is a f***ing waste of space. I say this every week, but all he does is fall over, lose posession and generally invite more pressure on us. Tonight he inexplicably managed to lose us the game with that weird o.g.

For me, Rafa is only any good at making us hard to beat in 451. But he doesn't seem to think Dwight can play on his own in a 451 and he's the only player capable of scoring regularly. So he went 442 and we were too open in midfield and looked very vulnerable.

Let's be honest, if Ashley doesn't sell, we are straight back down and Rafa walks in the new year. If he sells, Rafa will find a proper CF who can score goals. We also desperately need someone that can play in the hole and a new winger as Murphy is championship quality and Atsu is just a pace merchant who is too hit and miss.

Finally, Darlow replacing Elliot is again looking an odd decision. I really like Darlow but he's been thrust back into a high pressure situation and he's not coping very well.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: silverbullet on December 09, 2017, 08:29:45 PM
"busting a gut"?!!! are you f***ing kidding me?

watch this: https://www.clippituser.tv/c/nwearb

and tell me Perez was "busting his gut" Yes ok I hadnt had the benefit of seeing the goal again-I was trying to emphasise the sheer incompetence of Manquillo who was stranded way upfield.


he's f***ing sh***, running around occasionally like a headless chicken doesnt make him less sh***
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Brian Toon on December 09, 2017, 08:40:15 PM
Would bitch if Murinho coached like Rafa. Tell me, Mitro needs a rest ?


Mitrovic is not the answer we are conceding too many goals we need defenders. Mitro is not good enough and a liability nobody wanted to buy him in the summer thats a clear sign of a loose cannon. I understand people like him he has grit bit i trust rafa to leave him out. Rafa will be gone soon anyway so wel have some useles planl as a manager who will pick him and wel see if hes our saviour
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: little toon town on December 09, 2017, 08:53:30 PM

Mitrovic is not the answer we are conceding too many goals we need defenders. Mitro is not good enough and a liability nobody wanted to buy him in the summer thats a clear sign of a loose cannon. I understand people like him he has grit bit i trust rafa to leave him out. Rafa will be gone soon anyway so wel have some useles planl as a manager who will pick him and wel see if hes our saviour

You clearly dont watch the games properly, we are screaming out for Mitro, anyone who can't see that doesn't understand football..
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: ohsholaameobi on December 09, 2017, 09:19:38 PM
Needs to go now before he relegates us
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: French on December 09, 2017, 09:33:41 PM
and yet the same excuses from Rafa "we make too many mistakes, we need to improve and work hard"
Well, as a coach isn't the one who should stop picking up the players who always make the same mistakes? Isn't he the one who should improve the players?
It's actually getting worse week after week !

Yes, Ashley did not invest and we have a poor squad. Granted.
But when this group of players is not improving and rather getting poorer, how the coach can be immune of any criticism is beyond belief.

If this terrible run had been under Pardew and if it was Pardew who decided to pick up Joselu before Mitro or bench Shelvey, wouldn't the majority of us fans complain about Pardew?
Not suggesting Rafa is no better than Pards but honestly his team selections and substitutions are baffling
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: marki on December 09, 2017, 09:45:09 PM
this is the end product of years of bad decisions and no ambition..at least were in the pl with hopefully a brighter future with better quality players comes the better football
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: R S on December 09, 2017, 10:15:16 PM
Needs to go now before he relegates us
Nacker
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Surreymag on December 09, 2017, 10:25:26 PM
Needs to go now before he relegates us
really and who is going to come in and save us with our squad? I think you could be right about him leaving if no money becomes available in January.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: saintefi on December 09, 2017, 10:39:48 PM
and yet the same excuses from Rafa "we make too many mistakes, we need to improve and work hard"
Well, as a coach isn't the one who should stop picking up the players who always make the same mistakes? Isn't he the one who should improve the players?
It's actually getting worse week after week !

Yes, Ashley did not invest and we have a poor squad. Granted.
But when this group of players is not improving and rather getting poorer, how the coach can be immune of any criticism is beyond belief.

If this terrible run had been under Pardew and if it was Pardew who decided to pick up Joselu before Mitro or bench Shelvey, wouldn't the majority of us fans complain about Pardew?
Not suggesting Rafa is no better than Pards but honestly his team selections and substitutions are baffling


Thank you !!!
Some folks are just blinded by Rafa.

Houghton brought us back from Championship, got no investments, but didnt complain like Rafa.
Rafa just looking for excuses.

Also, Perez was a decent player till Rafa came along. Rafa scapegoated Ritchie by playing him in a different position couple of games back.

Folks need to stop drinking the Rafa cool-aid.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Jonas14 on December 09, 2017, 11:51:00 PM
try and imagine where we'd be if Carver, McLaren, Souness or Dalglish were managing these players.
Hughton, Pardew, Allardyce I grant you wouldn't be much different. We'd still be in a relegation battle (and not nearly as attractive to Amanda Staveley and co).

This could well be the worst team we've ever had in the PL when you consider Joselu, the feeble defenders (Clark excluded), two keepers that have no business in the PL, Diame and Perez.
Its worse than the two teams that got relegated (we didn't have a good manager then). The Pardew/Kuqi era maybe, but then: Nolan, Barton, Simpson, Colo, Jonas, Harper, Krul, Enrique.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: French on December 10, 2017, 12:17:43 AM
try and imagine where we'd be if Carver, McLaren, Souness or Dalglish were managing these players.
Hughton, Pardew, Allardyce I grant you wouldn't be much different. We'd still be in a relegation battle (and not nearly as attractive to Amanda Staveley and co).

This could well be the worst team we've ever had in the PL when you consider Joselu, the feeble defenders (Clark excluded), two keepers that have no business in the PL, Diame and Perez.
Its worse than the two teams that got relegated (we didn't have a good manager then). The Pardew/Kuqi era maybe, but then: Nolan, Barton, Simpson, Colo, Jonas, Harper, Krul, Enrique.

Nobody contests this.
The questions I am asking are :
-have we seen an improvement in the players' and team's performance since this season got started ?
- are we all happy to see Shelvey benched?
- do we trust that Joselu is superior to Mitro? Manquillo to M'Bemba?
- are we happy with the substitution he has made over the last couple of games?
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Poz on December 10, 2017, 12:35:12 AM
Going down faster than a hooker in the passenger seat
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Frank on December 10, 2017, 01:26:23 AM
Merino losing possession in the mid-field, CB turning their backs when the opponent strikers making a shot, the goalie being a bit slow to react, the ball hitting the back of the net - is that all too similar!
we bench a striker who regularly scores for his country in international games and instead rely on two strikers who could not even be good enough to be on the bench for Crystal Palace and Stoke. What can we expect!
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Toon1 on December 10, 2017, 07:58:28 AM
We are constantly giving teams way too much time and space in midfield - there?s no way we can afford to carry on playing with 2 in there as it is just inviting pressure onto our weak defence. Their midfielders just had freedom to move the ball yesterday and were constantly finding space - we need to fill those spaces quickly!

The first goal yesterday was typical of this letting their most dangerous player run and hit a shot was criminal but not surprising seeing as we had let about 4 similar chances previously. Then wat the f**k was Darlow doing his feet didn?t even leave the floor.
The second goal was a good goal and yes we could of tracked runner better
Third goal weak as piss tackles in midfield then long ball over top and both defenders getting dragged over and no defenders tracking the run into the box - Perez got back but couldn?t do anything but put it in

Attack wise we actually looked ok at times but f**k me the amount of times players failed to put ball into the danger zone was so frustrating. In the second half there was a spell after we equalised where atsu (twice), yedlin  & manquillo all got into great positions down the flanks and with Gayle making good runs in front of defenders it just needed a ball across the box - yet they all cut back and the chance was gone!!! So frustrating the lack of brains!!!

The first goal was a great ball by Murphy and fantastic run by Gayle - that?s what we need more of - players looking forward threading passes behind teams.

For Wednesday - lascelles has to come back in - we need to go 3 in midfield - we need to press the call higher that?s how we started well and when we?ve looked our best this season (West Ham & stoke)

Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: holycrosser on December 10, 2017, 08:05:09 AM

he went 4-4-2  again

he got it wrong, again

but Rafa is the best we have had?  fuk off, he is proving what many think, he just can't operate without spending, sorry but he mugged it yesterday, i froze my balls off and could see it a mile awayf after 20 mins it wasn't working  :nonono:

blind faith, yep, here we go again  :roll:
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: john88 on December 10, 2017, 10:12:59 AM
I wouldn?t even agree with ?can only operate with spending?. I personally think he?s signed some poor players during his stint here. All the championship fodder we didn?t need, Diame, ?12m on Murphy, Lejeune looks awful & Joselu is appalling. Basically, we?ve swapped from being a French contingent, to now a Spanish contingent who are equally as bad. If it was me, Manquillo, Perez, Gamez  & Joselu would be out the door by now.

As I?ve said before, this looks no different to the McClaren era. We might throw money at repeating the Shelvey/Townsend signings, but look where that got us. Relegated & a larger wage bill.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 10, 2017, 10:14:28 AM
Ahhh but he's Rafa man... You guys are deluded
Who do you expect...

I think he is showing that he's a good manager at a club with hundreds of millions to spend

Name one player who has come on under him here?
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: johndavey11 on December 10, 2017, 11:18:01 AM
i appreciate his budget has not been anywhere near enough to compete in the prem BUT...JOSELU,SELS GAMEZ,LEJEUNE,MURPHY,DIAME AND I am sure theres others i have forgotten,his record on signings is p*ss poor. would much have rather kept the likes of d.murphy,krul anita, even would take bloody Hanley over lejeune. squad now needs 50/60 million bare minimum or we are back in the championship/end of.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Toon1 on December 10, 2017, 11:30:20 AM
We are making the same mistakes we have made for years we are buying:-
1) young players when we need experience
2) a number of cheap players when we should be targeting a couple of bigger priced signings
3) the 2 above means paying cheaper wages - but you get what you pay for in this league

We need to go back to what we were doing at start of season & that is keeping compact restricting opposition room and trying to sneak results! Loads on here were moaning about that early in season but I bet every one of you would go back to that right now!!

We need a keeper who can actually dive! A strong battler in midfield,  a proper number 10 & a proper strong goal scorer up top
And all need to be experienced players - that?s a huge outlay that?s required and can?t see it happening even if takeover does happen
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: peachy on December 10, 2017, 12:15:00 PM
What the hell are you on about, Darlow saved two penalties at Forest last year, ofcpurse he can bloody dive, some people have short memories  :roll: yes he could have done better with the goal but Mahrez should also have not been allowed to run so far with the ball and get his shot away, his starting position was the problem as the ball was curling away from him and he struggled to get a good solid hand on it to keep it out, no way can you blame him for the other two either.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: R S on December 10, 2017, 12:23:25 PM
We're run like a championship club so inevitably we will become one again. Look at the spending that the "small" clubs do in the premiership, then look at us. Boro have spent more than us ffs. We're a Mickey Mouse club, it's that simple

Rafa's selection was four minutes away from getting a point against a proven ex-champions team. Would you still be bubbling on if we got the point?

As soon as it was obvious we weren't going to spend we had to be favourites for the drop. Nothing has changed.

I'm amazed we have got such a quality manager at the helm when you look at the s*** he has to work with.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 10, 2017, 01:41:25 PM
We're run like a championship club so inevitably we will become one again. Look at the spending that the "small" clubs do in the premiership, then look at us. Boro have spent more than us ffs. We're a Mickey Mouse club, it's that simple

Rafa's selection was four minutes away from getting a point against a proven ex-champions team. Would you still be bubbling on if we got the point?

As soon as it was obvious we weren't going to spend we had to be favourites for the drop. Nothing has changed.

I'm amazed we have got such a quality manager at the helm when you look at the s*** he has to work with.
Quality how?
Please explain
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: peachy on December 10, 2017, 01:52:47 PM
Any other manager would be gone by now or at serious risk of being sacked, one lousy point to show from the last seven games and as I said last week I seriously don't know where the next 3 points are coming from, swansea palace and west ham are starting to show signs of improvement, we could only draw with  west brom, lost to 'uddersfield, which teams are we actually better than? answer is none of them, the pro-rafa brigade argue the players are not premiership class, bargain basement standard, i know you cant make a silk purse from a bulls ballsack but it should be possible to improve their fitness levels, improve their passing, organise them, motivate them, give them confidence etc., look at Burnley, no expensive prima donnas there but all focussed, organised, confident, fit as f*ck, i dont always check out opta stats but i remember last season reading stats for the hardest working teams, like how far each player ran during a game, Arsenal were top and Burnley were second, Dyche's philosophy he knows his players cant match most teams for quality but if you have a very fit hard working organised group of players you can still compete with them.

Personally I think Rafa could be doing a lot better with what he has available and is sulking a bit and trying to prove his point to Ashley, Lascelles atsu and shelvey should all have started yesterday, mitro should have been on for at least the last half hour...he is quite simply toma de la orina.

The one positive to take from the last few weeks is undoubtedly Dwight Gayle, back to his clinical best another goal and assist yesterday and ran his socks off, always busy, contested every tackle, a really good attitude althougn Neil Swarbrick probably wouldn't agree as he took a few earbashings, but I like players like that.

I suppose we cant feel too disheartened, would Gray have scored without Lejeunes deflection? would Okazaki have scored had Perez not scored for him? these things tend to happen when a team is in such a rut, we are now in the habit of losing games and that can be difficult to get out of, the players now go into the Everton match expecting to lose, Benitez somehow has to change that mindset.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: R S on December 10, 2017, 02:12:01 PM
Quality how?
Please explain

You might want to look at his cv and then compare it to mcclaren, Pardew, carver, kinnear etc etc.
Can you name a "quality" manager that would work for Ashley and his constraints?

I sometimes despair at the delusional support we have. If people faced the fact that despite the current league we are in, to all intents and purposes we are a championship club albeit with 50,000 fans it would make things a lot easier to take.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 10, 2017, 02:48:40 PM
You might want to look at his cv and then compare it to mcclaren, Pardew, carver, kinnear etc etc.
Can you name a "quality" manager that would work for Ashley and his constraints?

I sometimes despair at the delusional support we have. If people faced the fact that despite the current league we are in, to all intents and purposes we are a championship club albeit with 50,000 fans it would make things a lot easier to take.
That is such a retarded answer
His CV shows what he is capable of at a large club
Shola would probably have scored 20+ a season at Barcelona
Messi would score at Barca or Newcastle, because he is quality
I think Rafa is more shola then Messi


He hasn't developed one player to become better
His signings are woeful
His team selection is embarrassing
He is all about him
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: marki on December 10, 2017, 03:35:52 PM
4th bottom on goal difference would be an achievment with this lot..only then can we start to rebuild once the owner has done 1 and we get a realistic bugget
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: R S on December 10, 2017, 04:17:51 PM
That is such a retarded answer
His CV shows what he is capable of at a large club
Shola would probably have scored 20+ a season at Barcelona
Messi would score at Barca or Newcastle, because he is quality
I think Rafa is more shola then Messi


He hasn't developed one player to become better
His signings are woeful
His team selection is embarrassing
He is all about him

You didn't name a quality replacement
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: French on December 10, 2017, 05:57:57 PM
You didn't name a quality replacement

Who knew Marco Silva? David Wagner?
There plenty of audacious young coachs out there who would be happy to be here.
We don't necessarily need a big name.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 10, 2017, 06:40:30 PM
Why do I need to name a replacement to not be happy with Rafa? That is such a non sensical answer
I actually think the only deluded ones around here are the ones who won't put any of the blame at his feet
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Toon1 on December 10, 2017, 06:43:40 PM
There?s blame all round owner, chief exec, scouts, manager, coaches & players - to just pick out one of that lot to blame is non-sensical
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: BikeSeatSniffer on December 10, 2017, 08:13:43 PM
Rafa's signings have certainly been pap. Mike's tansfer policy isn't ideal but then again bargains aren't impossible to find.

12m on Jacob Murphy ffs. I'd make him sit on the ginger bench with Jack Colback.

In defence of Rafa, I do love the face he brings to the club. It's nice having someone at the club who is respected and not a statue on Barrack Road.

Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: little toon town on December 10, 2017, 09:01:46 PM
Anyone wanting Rafa out, name me one manager we could hire if he was to go who would do any better? :wtf:
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: R S on December 10, 2017, 09:59:52 PM
Anyone wanting Rafa out, name me one manager we could hire if he was to go who would do any better? :wtf:

They can't. But because they play computer football they know better.
Who knew Marco Silva? David Wagner?

There plenty of audacious young coachs out there who would be happy to be here.
We don't necessarily need a big name.

Name one that would come here and do a job then
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Jonas14 on December 10, 2017, 11:25:24 PM
Mitro or Joselu, Mbemba or Manquillo, Shelvey in or not, this sub that sub.
I'd pick Mitro over Joselu and would always play Shelvey
but there is not a team selection Rafa could make that would avoid a relegation battle.

he had to make do with his signings - they obviously weren't 1st, 2nd or even 3rd, 4th  choices in some cases. He wanted a proven goalkeeper just to tide us over and is as aware as everybody that our keepers are naff, he wasn't allowed to address it even after shipping Krul out.

its not Rafa delusion, i cut Pardew the same slack - he's gone on to fail since whereas Rafa has succeeded almost everywhere. It isn't always the fault of the manager.

Joselu or Mitro, we're still in a relegation battle. Rafa doesn't want either of them but has no choice.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Finnish Geordie on December 11, 2017, 04:41:38 AM
Actually he has a choice. He hasnt tried Mitro yet. Maybe, he is not the answer but ffs he hasnt even tried that choice.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Surreymag on December 11, 2017, 08:30:08 AM
Actually he has a choice. He hasnt tried Mitro yet. Maybe, he is not the answer but ffs he hasnt even tried that choice.
I agree, but I believe Mitrovitch does not enter his way of thinking. As you say he can't be any worse. Just give the lad a chance and bring Shelvey back as well.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 11, 2017, 09:48:37 AM

Joselu or Mitro, we're still in a relegation battle. Rafa doesn't want either of them but has no choice.
Who signed joselu?
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: suffolkmag84 on December 11, 2017, 10:33:22 AM
I was disgusted with how we lost on Saturday but I think it is not Rafa's fault entirely.

He quite outwardly said he had 4 targets that he wanted to bring in to the club after we secured promotion but we did not get them and were immediately on the back foot.

He then admitted we were being outbid by Huddersfield and Brighton and were scrapping around for ?5 million players like Joselu no disrespect to the player when clubs who have smaller grounds than ours were spending like ?15/20 million on players.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: ohsholaameobi on December 11, 2017, 10:35:20 AM
Elliot
Yedlin Lascelles Clark Mbemba
Ritchie Shelvey Merino Aarons/Murphy
Gayle
Mitrovic

That's the team that should've started on saturday. We're hiding in our own half at home to leicester for f**k sake. Same tactics every game, it just doesn't work like that.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: peachy on December 11, 2017, 11:26:16 AM
facking Elliot??  phone home  :suicide: :roll:
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: French on December 11, 2017, 12:32:51 PM
Name one that would come here and do a job then

Well..that was my point. They are not necessarily known yet. Scouting should also include the manager market if we were a well run club.
There surely is at least 1 manager who we don't know yet with fresh new ideas.
If I was to dare a name though, then Julian Nagelsmann could be a good choice https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/15/hoffenheim-julian-nagelsmann-liverpool-champions-league 

Look, I am not suggesting that we should sack Benitez. I am not blind to the circumstances and the serious lack of investment.
I just feel that we also have the right to express some reservation about his team selection and tactics sometines. 
Ask to the Inter Milan or Real supporters if they consider Benitez as a great coach... Even many Liverpool fans would openly say that a majority of his recruitments were very poor.

Is he many classes above the dash we had over the past few years ? Of course.
Can we question the current tactics and team selections ? I'd hope so.

For all the poor squad we have, this same group of players managed to play pretty well and were wining games at the early stage of the season.
A coach is supposed to improve them but we are getting worse at the moment and that is to me the real worry for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Jonas14 on December 11, 2017, 03:41:11 PM
Who signed joselu?

he had to buy a striker. He had ?5million. You cant get a good striker for that, whether its Joselu or anybody else.

that's settling for not wanting.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: little toon town on December 11, 2017, 08:04:25 PM
They can't. But because they play computer football they know better. Name one that would come here and do a job then

Explains the stupidity of people's posts.

End of the day there is not another manager out there who we could possibly get who would be better than Rafa, the man is doing the best he can with a squad which is only just going to finish above the drop. The players we have got aren't Rafa kind of players, more players which he could only get cause the budget he had in the summer. Instead of moaning get behind the man, this season was all about staying up, if you aren't happy with that then do one...
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: peachy on December 11, 2017, 08:24:34 PM
What the f*ck you banging on about you mental little jerk, 1 point from a possible 21 is totally sh*te, not starting shelvey lascelles and atsu against leicester was pathetic, Benitez is taking the p*ss big f*cking time and if you can't see that you must be a fooking imbecile  :roll:
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Toon1 on December 11, 2017, 08:27:39 PM
Lascelles clearly wasn?t fit - he would be in Rafa starting 11 every time if he was fit
The same with atsu too I reckon

Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: little toon town on December 11, 2017, 08:44:27 PM
What the f*ck you banging on about you mental little jerk, 1 point from a possible 21 is totally sh*te, not starting shelvey lascelles and atsu against leicester was pathetic, Benitez is taking the p*ss big f*cking time and if you can't see that you must be a fooking imbecile  :roll:

Yes it is, but so is the side? Atsu and Lascells weren't even fit for Saturday? Name me another manager we can get in then? Cos there's f*cking no one
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: Surreymag on December 11, 2017, 09:43:48 PM
Explains the stupidity of people's posts.

End of the day there is not another manager out there who we could possibly get who would be better than Rafa, the man is doing the best he can with a squad which is only just going to finish above the drop. The players we have got aren't Rafa kind of players, more players which he could only get cause the budget he had in the summer. Instead of moaning get behind the man, this season was all about staying up, if you aren't happy with that then do one...
To be fair I am not happy at the moment that's nothing to do with anything other than the fact that we haven't won a game for ages. I know the squad is sh*** and we knew this was going to happen but as a supporter I am still disappointed when we get beaten which unfortunately is happening in every game at the moment and unlikely to change. So yes I'm not happy, but like all supporters hoping against all hope that things will change in our next game. The longer it doesn't the more unhappy and annoyed I will become like any other supporter would with a team that is struggling like our team is. It doesn't mean that I am suddenly going to stop supporting the team I love. It is however difficult to see the struggle we are having. Investment and sensible team selection will hopefully help them in their fight to remain in the PL time will tell let's hope they,the club don't leave it until it's too late.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: peachy on December 11, 2017, 10:34:52 PM
Lascelles clearly wasn?t fit - he would be in Rafa starting 11 every time if he was fit
The same with atsu too I reckon



He was on the bench, therefore he was fit, had he not been fit he wouldn't be on the bench, same with atsu, even if he wasn't totally 100% would he not be better than Lejeune who is clearly total garbage?, just Lascelles presence in that side would have given the whole team a boost, we aint got a leader mate, incase you hadnt noticed there is not one leader in that team, Shelvey sometimes wears the armband but he has no respect from the players because they know he's a f*cking IDIOT!!, every team needs leadership and Benitez deserves all the criticism he has recieved for not starting Lascelles, or even bringing him on at some point.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: TT on December 11, 2017, 10:50:17 PM
What the f*ck you banging on about you mental little jerk, 1 point from a possible 21 is totally sh*te, not starting shelvey lascelles and atsu against leicester was pathetic, Benitez is taking the p*ss big f*cking time and if you can't see that you must be a fooking imbecile  :roll:

Perfect potential moderation material there fella...as opinions f***ing dogshitly dismissed .
Sense the mold of your yern to mod here as you come across as the others are as not just a f***ing bellend ....but a total c***.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: peachy on December 11, 2017, 10:54:31 PM
Perfect potential moderation material there fella...as opinions f***ing dogshitly dismissed .
Sense the mold of your yern to mod here as you come across as the others are as not just a f***ing bellend ....but a total c***.


well you would be banned straight away, your contribution to this forum usually consists of drunken rants that not a soul can make head nor tail of, just carry on disrespecting yourself though.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 11, 2017, 11:24:52 PM
well you would be banned straight away, your contribution to this forum usually consists of drunken rants that not a soul can make head nor tail of, just carry on disrespecting yourself though.  :thumbs:
Never have I felt the need to agree with you more than I have on this thread :)
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: TT on December 11, 2017, 11:30:42 PM
Oooo nufc June for mod too. Haters ...meh
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: little toon town on December 11, 2017, 11:37:20 PM
He was on the bench, therefore he was fit, had he not been fit he wouldn't be on the bench, same with atsu, even if he wasn't totally 100% would he not be better than Lejeune who is clearly total garbage?, just Lascelles presence in that side would have given the whole team a boost, we aint got a leader mate, incase you hadnt noticed there is not one leader in that team, Shelvey sometimes wears the armband but he has no respect from the players because they know he's a f*cking IDIOT!!, every team needs leadership and Benitez deserves all the criticism he has recieved for not starting Lascelles, or even bringing him on at some point.

Right, so you'd rather a 30% fit player play just because he's better? You clearly have to idea to tactical awareness. If Rafa knew Lascelles was fit he would have played him, he was clearly not fit enough to start.

As  the leader thing, I completely agree, without lascelles we don' have a leader, I don't think the players don't have respect for Shelvey, I think its more Shelvey isn't vocal enough. Shelvey isn't an idiot, he's our best CM and if you really can't see that you need your head shaking pal.

Name me a better coach, cause there f*ck all out there
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: peachy on December 12, 2017, 07:16:03 AM
Right, so you'd rather a 30% fit player play just because he's better? You clearly have to idea to tactical awareness. If Rafa knew Lascelles was fit he would have played him, he was clearly not fit enough to start.

As  the leader thing, I completely agree, without lascelles we don' have a leader, I don't think the players don't have respect for Shelvey, I think its more Shelvey isn't vocal enough. Shelvey isn't an idiot, he's our best CM and if you really can't see that you need your head shaking pal.

Name me a better coach, cause there f*ck all out there

If he was only 30% fit he wouldn't even make the bench you clown  :roll:

They dont respect Shelvey because he calls players 'smelly arabs', and stamps on people legs for no apparent reason and gets sent off, dropping everyone in the sh*t, where have I said he is not our best CM? you make it up as you go along mate, just because he's an idiot a racist and a loose cannon does not take away from the fact he is a fantastic footballer, but he's NOT a leader.  :nonono:
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: nufcjon on December 12, 2017, 10:16:04 PM
Burnley up to fourth tonight
But then they have a team full of premier league winners and a champions league winning manager don't they....
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: R S on December 12, 2017, 10:22:58 PM
Chipeachy taking the moral high ground after all the drivel you posted in your mackem days?  How odd.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: little toon town on December 12, 2017, 11:06:53 PM
If he was only 30% fit he wouldn't even make the bench you clown  :roll:

They dont respect Shelvey because he calls players 'smelly arabs', and stamps on people legs for no apparent reason and gets sent off, dropping everyone in the sh*t, where have I said he is not our best CM? you make it up as you go along mate, just because he's an idiot a racist and a loose cannon does not take away from the fact he is a fantastic footballer, but he's NOT a leader.  :nonono:

What other CB do we have fit to make the bench? Mbemba yes but Rafa doesn't trust him,

You love avoiding my question to name another manager we could fetch in instead of Rafa? :roll:
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: peachy on December 13, 2017, 06:33:49 AM
When Mbemba has been in the side he has NEVER let Rafa down, but again why he doesn't play him is a mystery. He's on the front cover of the matchday programme today, but that's probably all we will see of him.  :roll:

When have I ever suggested replacing Benitez? there you go making stuff up as you go along, my point is he has to accept some of the blame for this horrendous run of results, any other manager who's club was at the bottom of a form table with one point from 7 games would be getting stick from the press, also the bookies would have them as favourite to be next manager sacked, but instead they have Clement, Hughes or Pellegrino as the next ones for the chop  :! just because he's won la liga and the champions league he seems to be absolved of all blame by some.  :roll:
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: OmegaprimeVKM on December 13, 2017, 11:57:57 AM
When Mbemba has been in the side he has NEVER let Rafa down, but again why he doesn't play him is a mystery. He's on the front cover of the matchday programme today, but that's probably all we will see of him.  :roll:

When have I ever suggested replacing Benitez? there you go making stuff up as you go along, my point is he has to accept some of the blame for this horrendous run of results, any other manager who's club was at the bottom of a form table with one point from 7 games would be getting stick from the press, also the bookies would have them as favourite to be next manager sacked, but instead they have Clement, Hughes or Pellegrino as the next ones for the chop  :! just because he's won la liga and the champions league he seems to be absolved of all blame by some.  :roll:

It was one of his 4 birthdays hence he had a day off booked.
Title: Re: Newcastle v Leicester 9th Dec 2017
Post by: ohsholaameobi on December 13, 2017, 11:01:53 PM
When Mbemba has been in the side he has NEVER let Rafa down, but again why he doesn't play him is a mystery. He's on the front cover of the matchday programme today, but that's probably all we will see of him.  :roll:

When have I ever suggested replacing Benitez? there you go making stuff up as you go along, my point is he has to accept some of the blame for this horrendous run of results, any other manager who's club was at the bottom of a form table with one point from 7 games would be getting stick from the press, also the bookies would have them as favourite to be next manager sacked, but instead they have Clement, Hughes or Pellegrino as the next ones for the chop  :! just because he's won la liga and the champions league he seems to be absolved of all blame by some.  :roll:

Agree entirely. Mbemba would be in my starting lineup every game. As would a certain Serbian striker...let's not go there haha.